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Offline poopster

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« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2002, 03:22:24 PM »
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it requires well, to be blunt, no talent or skill at all to use


Well I fill that bill to a tee, how come the few times I've tried it, I can't kill squat ??

But it doesn't have wings so fogitabotit. Don't fly over them...works for me :D

I'm for perking the load out on F4U-1D's. Make it high so they quit hangin stuff underneath it.

This jabo facination with big blue is hurtin it's score.

Next time, take a tiffy, leave big blue for the men with tattoo's and hangovers..

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« Reply #16 on: November 03, 2002, 08:31:38 PM »
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Originally posted by Karnak


Still, the plane whiners will only mention the Spitfire Mk IX, N1K2-J and La-7.  The P-51D seems to have a "get out of jail free" card in this regards.  I wonder why?


Because it doesn't have canons, you don't die from 2-3 pings from a lucky HO/snap shot.

The plane still is a killer, I think I have like 31 kill for 1 death in it, speed being the key to survival if you "furball with moderation". P51 is a pleasure to fly... feels smooth, and you still need a minimum of aiming/long burst on target, meaning work on placing yourself.
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« Reply #17 on: November 04, 2002, 12:57:09 AM »
Yes Frenchy but remember that apparent disadvatage it has about firing for a long time cancels itself with that you can start firing at extreme ranges pull lead and hit and by the time you're D300 the target is dead or dying.

The Pony doesn't break the 1 K/D mainly, like it has been said , between the newbies and the Attackers it gets fairly easily shot down,while the Dora is a pure fighter in AH,not only that but many of the pilots that fly  the Dora are not incompetent, Each time I saw Frenchy , Mandoble,  and myself included racked up 5+ victories each sortie I ended up last tour with 163 Kills to 12 deaths in Mein Gute horny Frau :D but she's still squeakie if you mishandle her after all  it is  a 190 ;)

EDIT: Oh forgot to mention the Pony was the most killed plane by me last tour :D  :p
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« Reply #18 on: November 04, 2002, 01:01:58 AM »
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Wow, the p40B has a whopping 175 kills. :D


That will change somewhat this tour. I'm flying it (P-40B/Tomahawk) as my main fighter ride, with the P-40E as my attack bird and SBD as my bomber. Also using F4F-4 for carrier duty. Essentially, I'll be flying only U.S. aircraft in service at the time of Pearl Harbor (SBD-5 is close enough to -3). Between them, I'm 34/3. Of those 3, I lost one to ground fire and another to a collision.

People don't fly these aircraft because they think them hopelessly outclassed for the MA. I intend to establish otherwise.

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« Reply #19 on: November 04, 2002, 01:11:18 AM »
99 kills, 33 deaths in P47d-11 for tour 33. Great plane.
"My grandaddy always told me, "There are three things that'll put a good man down: Losin' a good woman, eatin' bad possum, or eatin' good possum."" - Holden McGroin

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« Reply #20 on: November 04, 2002, 05:26:23 AM »
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People don't fly these aircraft because they think them hopelessly outclassed for the MA. I intend to establish otherwise.


hehe, they are decent planes,
Just pointing out that the ENY on both p40s is way too low.

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« Reply #21 on: November 04, 2002, 08:44:26 AM »
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hehe, they are decent planes,
Just pointing out that the ENY on both p40s is way too low.


You are absolutely right on that. Yet, the P-40s, like the SBD, are generally not taken very seriously by many in the MA, and that will cost them. Last evening, I spotted some guy in a P-40E flying around at 2k very near a highly active Rook field. Needless to say, a crowd descended upon him in short order.

Relatively slow flying aircraft absolutely require plenty of altitude to be effective in an enviornment loaded down with fast, late-war fighters.

Yesterday, I flew a sortie to a field where there was a constant fight going on below 10k. I came in at 15k, used the P-40's excellent dive and zoom capability to beat the hell out of a bunch of higher performing fighters, none of those whacked were flown by noobs. Taking the time to grab enough altitude is important to being successful in the P-40s.

However, get a P-40 low and slow and things can get very hectic, very quickly. While the P-40s have good low speed handling (especially the P-40B), they have nowhere near the agility of the SBD, making them even more vulnerable if caught on the deck.

One drawback of the SBD is low lethality in snapshots. Of course, the P-40B is not much of snapshooter either. It does have a huge ammo loadout though. In contrast, The P-40E has very good guns, but limited ammo.

ENY values should be 50 for the P-40B and 40 for the P-40E, making them somewhat more attractive to fly to those wanting to generate some perk points.

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« Reply #22 on: November 04, 2002, 09:10:44 AM »
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The Spit IX and Dora slip a rung.

Tour 33

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« Reply #23 on: November 04, 2002, 09:37:11 AM »
Well Widewing, I had a whopping 2 kills in the p40b...and 0 deaths in it for tour 33.

I enjoy flying it as a switch from my normal p51b.  I may join you this tour in flying it as my main ride....and you are absolutely right...get low in the p40...and you'd better hope it is because you're landing ;).

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« Reply #24 on: November 04, 2002, 10:15:47 AM »
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These pages never open up for me,  All I get is a blank page with "!!!!!!" on the first line.   (IE6 latest patches and all that)
The main link doesn't open at all?  About 5 of the individual pages aren't working right now, but the FighterVsFighter page should be.

If it doesn't.. then maybe you have activeX disabled?

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« Reply #25 on: November 04, 2002, 10:59:04 AM »
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deck.

One drawback of the SBD is low lethality in snapshots. Of course, the P-40B is not much of snapshooter either. It does have a huge ammo loadout though. In contrast, The P-40E has very good guns, but limited ammo.


Widewing



im flying P40s also this tour as my main fighter. so far i get the feeling the P40E's 6 50cals are the weakest of the 6 50cal planes.
they are defenantly weaker then the 4 50s in the FM2. all plane 50s suppose to be same but some kill  alot better then others.


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« Reply #26 on: November 04, 2002, 11:39:49 AM »
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The main link doesn't open at all?  About 5 of the individual pages aren't working right now, but the FighterVsFighter page should be.

If it doesn't.. then maybe you have activeX disabled?

AKDejaVu


It opens on my laptop - and now that you mention it I think I do have that turned off for this website on this machine.  (just checked - yeah I do).  Thanks.

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« Reply #27 on: November 04, 2002, 11:59:09 AM »
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why don't more people whine about perking the ostwind?  i really think it should be lightly perked.  i know we're getting a tiger, all the more reason to perk the ostwind as well.


Only two aircraft had a positive kill/death vs. ostwind.  The Tempest (31 Ost Kills vs 24 Tempest Deaths) and the 262  (11 Ost kills vs 10 262 deaths)

All the other airplanes the Ostwind killed more than the Ostwind died.  I don't know about you guys, but maybe this camp I gonna get smarter and just stay the hell away from Ostwinds all together.


Probably not ;)  I sort of  broke even with the ostwinders this last camp - turbot has 25 kills and has been killed 24 times against the Ostwind.  But I was trying to steer clear of em then too, but boy it's tempting to go after em :)

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« Reply #28 on: November 04, 2002, 01:04:27 PM »
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im flying P40s also this tour as my main fighter. so far i get the feeling the P40E's 6 50cals are the weakest of the 6 50cal planes.
they are defenantly weaker then the 4 50s in the FM2. all plane 50s suppose to be same but some kill  alot better then others.


whels


Maybe it is the placement of the guns?  Are they closer together on the FM2?  That'd mean more hits closer together, and most of the planes in AH aren't exactly tough, so that may be enough to kill em.

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« Reply #29 on: November 04, 2002, 01:08:58 PM »
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Still, the plane whiners will only mention the Spitfire Mk IX, N1K2-J and La-7.  The P-51D seems to have a "get out of jail free" card in this regards.  I wonder why?


Because they don't want to lose their best attack plane.