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Offline J_A_B

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« Reply #30 on: November 04, 2002, 01:33:31 PM »
The P-51D is a POS for attack.   Several fighters carry more ordnance and it's also horribly vulnerable to ground fire.

This matches well with the airplane's historical reputation....more P-51's were lost to enemy ground fire than to enemy aircraft!

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« Reply #31 on: November 04, 2002, 03:12:53 PM »
it still carries more the any german/italian/russian/ and maybe british plane.

Plus those 50 cals rip gvs at longer ranges then any other plane. Its faster then both the p38 and p47 and doesnt compress.

I guess your idea of a POS is different then mine. About the only attack plane that would be as good as it would be the dhog. Maybe the f6f.

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« Reply #32 on: November 04, 2002, 04:21:01 PM »
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Maybe it is the placement of the guns?  Are they closer together on the FM2?  That'd mean more hits closer together, and most of the planes in AH aren't exactly tough, so that may be enough to kill em.


99% of time im shooting/hitting at convergance or closer, so gun placement shouldnt reduce leath by much if at all.

if i had to rank the 50cal planes in leath order High to low this would be it.
#1  F6F
2  FM2
3 F4U-1
4 P47s
5 P51 D
6 F4U-1d
7 F4U-4
8 P38  (after cannon gone)
9 p51B
10 F4F
11 P40E (6 50s)

i set convergances the same for all 50 cal planes( 400 all guns)


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« Reply #33 on: November 04, 2002, 06:37:37 PM »
Well i did my part in the Dora :D
I don't know what to put here yet.

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« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2002, 07:30:21 PM »
Heh Wotan, the Mustang is good at hitting its targets, but not so good at surviving.    I guess that makes it the ideal platform for suicide divebombers  :)

I'd rate the F4U-1D, P-47D-30 and Me-110 as the best A2G fighters in AH in terms of hitting power and survivability to ground fire.

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« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2002, 07:39:24 PM »
I'd go with P-38, 110G2, and P-47D-30 in that order.

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« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2002, 07:45:17 PM »
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I'd rate the F4U-1D, P-47D-30 and Me-110 as the best A2G fighters in AH in terms of hitting power and survivability to ground fire.

J_A_B


Yeah, forget about the lowly F6F-6, she can't take more than 3 or 4 base AAA hits ;)

IMO, the Hellcat is ONE of the best light attack a/c we have. The pilot can't rely on it's blazing speed so your attacks have to be well planed...but she sure can soak up some lead then get you home.

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« Reply #37 on: November 05, 2002, 01:42:08 AM »
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Yeah, forget about the lowly F6F-6, she can't take more than 3 or 4 base AAA hits ;)

IMO, the Hellcat is ONE of the best light attack a/c we have. The pilot can't rely on it's blazing speed so your attacks have to be well planed...but she sure can soak up some lead then get you home.


I completely agree. The F6F-5 is at the top of my list too. Also, you can get one off of a carrier, heavy, with relative ease compared to the F4U.

If HTC had modeled the 8 HVAR rocket load-out for the SBD-5, it would be a pretty good Jabo as well, being extremely agile if rather slow.

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« Reply #38 on: November 05, 2002, 02:17:26 AM »
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If HTC had modeled the 8 HVAR rocket load-out for the SBD-5, it would be a pretty good Jabo as well, being extremely agile if rather slow.
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what is it with you and your hardon for the SBD? against anyone with a clue, it's dead meat.

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« Reply #39 on: November 05, 2002, 12:29:06 PM »
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what is it with you and your hardon for the SBD? against anyone with a clue, it's dead meat.

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That's easy to explain. I flew the La-7 and La-5FN for several sorties last tour and ran up a combined 9.5/1 K/D without hardly an effort. Where's the challenge to that? These Lavochkins are exceptional fighters, with the La-7 probably the best pure fighter in the game. Likewise I flew a one or more sorties in the Tempest, F4U-4 and Spitfire XIV. I'm simply bored flying the "hot ships", and resort to them only when grossly out-numbered.

Wel, we're still out-numbered, but I am just a s bored with the late-war fighters. So, I fly the SBD because it requires great care to be successful. That's a challenge. Likewise, I'm limiting myself to the P-40s and F4F-4 this tour, except on squad nights where the C.O. picks the aircraft or it is predetermined (I have already selected the monthly squad planes for 2003). This is done so squad members gain experience in all types. I have experience in all types, so I'm doing my pre-Pearl Harbor tour flying only aircraft in service prior to 12/7/41.

I don't expect to carry a very good K/D, nor will I likely make the top 100 in score. So what? I've already done that. To avoid losing interest in the game, I need to do something to add some difficulty. Flying early-war aircraft in the MA is one way to do that.
If all I can manage is a 3-4/1 KD, so be it. At least it'll be fun.

As far as flying these old clunkers, the Pizza map is a miserable place. Three times I flew more than a sector only to find the fight had evaporated. That's a long haul in a P-40B, and it murders your K/T and K/S. The opposite extreme exists too. Several of us fought off a gangbang mob, I got several kills with the SBD, but got vulched after landing, out of gas. What the heck, those guys couldn't touch the SBD in the air, so they nailed it when they could. Lame? Maybe, but I'd do the same thing under the circumstances.

Shane, you're are an exceptional stick. Fly the SBD or even P-40B for a while, it will make you even better. :D If you can excel in these, you are one bad man..... Some day, an AH player in a late-war fighter will look up and see an SBD and say to himself, "aw crap, there's that maniac Shane again!" :eek:

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« Reply #40 on: November 05, 2002, 12:38:38 PM »
no doubt the p40 and sbd can be fun rides and surprise those who engage without thinking.

just that we all know of your passion for the sbd -  just that it's almost as if the sbd is stalking all your posts.

go play with the il-2.

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« Reply #41 on: November 05, 2002, 01:05:43 PM »
Get in a 38 and furball. Its like a painful experience but... at least I'm back in my "ride". Hopefully I'll get better as of right now I cant hit sh*& and I'm dieing alot... nothing new there I quess.


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