CV flak

[AcId]

First off let me prefix this whine with "yes it just shot me down"

Under normal circumstances I wouldnt give it much thought that the CV flak killed me and just grab a new plane and head back to the fight. However, when it's seemingly radar guided through a cloud layer then it bugs me. I am by no means a world class historian, I do not know whether or not if the flak guns in this time period were radar guided. This is why it bugs me, does anyone know if they were? I'd like to know. There does seem to be an argument against flak in either case.

If they were radar assisted, why arent they more accurate? To most of us flying within the Flak umbrella doesn't raise a serious possibility of death, unless it's manned anyway.

If they weren't radar assisted, why does it shoot through the cloud layer? Even in the case of going by engine sounds overhead it would just be a waste of ammunition on the part of the deck gunner.

No, I was not in a 'straight & level' bomber, I was in a maneuvering F4U-1 What else?!

Ohwell, I feel better, but the question remains.


Pardon me if this topic has already been covered, I'm sure it has and I missed it.

[Karnak]

They were not radar guided.  Radar of the time was not accurate enough, and there were no computers to interpet the signal.  Even humans often had trouble understanding the response on the CRTs.

The later US and UK AA shells did have an effective proximity system.  This is modeled in AH.  Notice how shells that miss badly are never seen and the explosions only happen near aircraft.

[AcId]

ty Karnak,
   
   Maybe HTC plans on taking into account the cloud layers on the AI guns? Afterall, it's not supposed to target through terrain or bldgs anymore. Can we add the cloud layer to that list? Might be nice, off the top of my head I can't think of any reasons not too.

[Mooja]

Originally posted by AcId

If they weren't radar assisted, why does it shoot through the cloud layer? Even in the case of going by engine sounds overhead it would just be a waste of ammunition on the part of the deck gunner.
 

I would think if there's a bomber over the deck somewhere there would be no such thing as wasted ammo whether you could see the bomber or not.

[Turbot]

Another way to think about it is, random fire will eventually get you if you fly in it long enough.

[AcId]

Originally posted by Turbot
Another way to think about it is, random fire will eventually get you if you fly in it long enough.

Ok, go fly over an nme CV above a cloud layer and tell me thats "Random fire"