Author Topic: Ripoff (Read 181 times)

easymo · « **on:** November 03, 2002, 06:06:30 PM »

But, too funny to pass up.

http://agw.warbirdsiii.com/bbs/showthread.php?s=&threadid=12635

whgates3 · « **Reply #1 on:** November 03, 2002, 07:57:37 PM »

send them to the russian front

Russian · « **Reply #2 on:** November 03, 2002, 08:32:58 PM »

Looks like a nice camping ground, I’ve been through worse… Its seems some air force personal need to go back to basic camp, specially “warrior week”

wulfie · « **Reply #3 on:** November 04, 2002, 12:32:18 AM »

Service reputation-wise, it's more than balanced out by the U.S.A.F. PJ who will almost certainly get the Medal of Honor, after crossing open ground under extremely heavy fire on 4 separate occasions - each trip to recover a member of the U.S. Army who was critically wounded.

This happened in Afghanistan.

After making that 4th trip, in the following chaos said PJ was mortally wounded. He died before he could be extracted.

Mike/wulfie

easymo · « **Reply #4 on:** November 04, 2002, 01:28:45 AM »

When I was a little boy, I remember my Grandfathers's second wife,and the only Grandmother I ever knew, telling me about her father. He was a solider in the Spanish American war. The one story that stuck, even from childhood, was about how the troops got so thirsty, at one point, that they drank horse piss.

One day I found myself setting on the dike of a rice paddy. I was watching a water buffalo piss in the water I had just filled my canteen with. I dropped a black iodine tab in. Swished it around for a wile. Than drank a toast to that old gentleman, where ever he was.

Now, I know dust in your DVD player is a serious matter. But, you have to admit that news article is funny.

wulfie · « **Reply #5 on:** November 04, 2002, 02:26:56 AM »

Yeah I thought it was funny too. I'm just very anti-generalization.

Let me put it a different way - there are plenty of wimps in the U.S. Army who have cushy jobs as well (I won't get into the recent case of *Army* guys dealing with lots of dust somehow having top flight cold weather gear whilst a group of suffering Marines almost froze to death at over 14,000' altitude over a period of several days). I never understood the lack of jokes about those specific army guys. Maybe it's a karma thing - the rear echelon Army guys don't have jokes made about them at the expense of the Army in general because guys like you give them regular beatings when you hear them whine in person. That could be it - U.S.A.F. combat personnel tend to beat things with big guided munitions - not very useful in a friendly dinnertime tussle.

I'm not in the U.S.A.F. by the way. Eagl pointed out to the U.S.A.F. powers that be that the 1 in 9.2 million chance that I ever wind up flying any type of aircraft in real life simply wasn't worth the risk.

Mike/Wulfie

p.s. ~~To any guy walking thru rice paddies in Vietnam...well...any non communist guy that is.~~

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #6 on:** November 04, 2002, 07:35:07 AM »

Did 4 years active Duty in the USAF and 4 years in the Guard. The AF National Guard is where I actually deployed all around the world as a Ground Radio specialist.

I've been deployed to camps resembling the one described, though not on that side of the world (or even in that hemisphere). The laundry comment I find somewhat hard to believe since I've never seen any AF installation with a laundry facility (Other than dry cleaning) since basic training. They will normally deploy washers and dryers when they set up a camp.

The shelters are called "Harvest Bears". They come one to a pallet, expand to hold 20 people, and can be set up in a matter of hours. A single C-5 can carry enough of them to outfit a camp with 1000 people (or more). The camp could conceivably be put up in a few days. I spent 3 months in one down in South America in the middle of the jungle.

Most of this is easy to do because the Air Force sets up bases, not camps. Usually, their presence means a commitment of 6 months or more.

As for the complaints about the dust... I've heard EVERYONE complained about that from the Army to the Marines to the AirForce. About the only ones that didn't have a problem with it were the Navy guys... they complained mostly about the rough sex.

AKDejaVu

gofaster · « **Reply #7 on:** November 04, 2002, 08:06:21 AM »

There should be a genuine effort to improve the food and laundry service. Everything else is just fluff.