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Thrawn · « **Reply #15 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:17:27 PM »

funked, how is it immoral?

SOB · « **Reply #16 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:21:50 PM »

Thrawn, there is no right and wrong opinion when it comes to morals, just different beliefs. Well, except that Funked is wrong in thinking that being a meat gazer makes you immoral, but you know what I mean - Funked is gay.

SOB

PS...Canada sucks (pointless slam on canucks #2 for today

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funkedup · « **Reply #17 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:21:51 PM »

Thrawn, I can tell you why it is immoral by my standards, but, I'm not sure there's any point in telling you, as I am nearly certain you will reject my definition of morality. This will then lead to a series of posts comparing our moral standards. And as I don't really care what your moral standards are (don't know you in real life, you don't vote in the US, you have no say over what I do with my hypothetical children, etc.), I don't see any point in going down that road.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #18 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:24:27 PM »

Woah! Alcoholism has absof'inlutely NOTHING to do with morals.

Is it moral to beat off? No... but that's something you CAN stop doing.

Alcoholism is closer to a disease... many can't stop even if they want to.

OTOH, Homolism just ain't right.... sticking the vein train in the doodoo chute... that just ain't supposed to happen.

You know it too.. nature tells you it's bad to be near the colon... if it didn't, it wouldn't smell like ... toejam!
-SW

Kanth · « **Reply #19 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:26:13 PM »

Wow yer right, funked is gay.

Thrawn · « **Reply #20 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:26:40 PM »

No funked really, I would like to know what about your system of morals dictates that homosexuality is immoral. I'm sure you've given it thought and have a valid basis for this part of your morality system.

funkedup · « **Reply #21 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:27:03 PM »

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Originally posted by Kanth
Wow yer right, funked is gay.

Homophobe!

SOB too!

Ban them!

Thrawn · « **Reply #22 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:31:16 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
OTOH, Homolism just ain't right.... sticking the vein train in the doodoo chute... that just ain't supposed to happen.

You know it too.. nature tells you it's bad to be near the colon... if it didn't, it wouldn't smell like ... toejam!
-SW

Looks, based on this article, that nature is telling us homosexuality is quite natural.

Because you don't want to have sex with men means that it's wrong, it just means your heterosexual.

funkedup · « **Reply #23 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:31:49 PM »

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Originally posted by Thrawn
No funked really, I would like to know what about your system of morals dictates that homosexuality is immoral. I'm sure you've given it thought and have a valid basis for this part of your morality system.

Thrawn it's from the Bible. There is a fair amount of debate about various Bible passages and what God is trying to tell us about homosexuality. I am of the opinion that these passages pretty clearly mark homsexuality as sinful behavior of which we should not approve. I am not any kind of great Bible scholar so I'm not going to debate scripture here with you. But if you are interested in reading more about this debate, there are a wide range of internet sites on the subject, as well as published works. And you can always just go talk to a clergyman. It's their job.

PS I don't pretend to speak for all Christians here, so please don't interpret it this way. Like I said, I am not any kind of expert Bible scholar.
PPS Remember that the New Testament makes it clear that sinners can still recieve God's love and our love. I'm a sinner too.

Thrawn · « **Reply #24 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:35:31 PM »

Okay, thanks for answering.

Hangtime · « **Reply #25 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:37:33 PM »

"Survival of the Species is EVERYBODYS buisness"

...Darwin.

Now, ask again, and engage yer brain first; as to why being a proud homosexual is immoral.

Funked is right, his terminologly may be suspect, but he's right. "Being gay is ok" is the same as saying "alcoholisim is ok" and "sociopathic homicidal maniacs are ok".

The products of a sick society and P.C. mentality.

If homosexual behavior is gene identifiable, it's a fair target for eradication.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #26 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:37:50 PM »

Thrawn, a lot of things are "natural"...

Physical Deformities, Down Syndrome, other mental retardations, physical growth retardation (midgets), even the HIV can be passed along to the fetus....

Just because there's a chance nature will let it happen, doesn't mean it's the norm or people should happily accept it.

I don't mind gays... but I simply can NOT stand those flamboyant lispy wrist flicking studmuffins.. and I would never want my kid to turn out as the latter.
-SW

Wotan · « **Reply #27 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:39:41 PM »

Thrawn dont hyper analyze everything. If ya wanna reply to the question I posed, great but quit trying to "read" between lines to suit your own biased. It is getting tiring.

I have stated in other threads what I think about homosexuality. If you want to ask a specific question of me go ahead. But dont put words in my mouth.

I choose the words I did to set up the conditions I described.

Should there be a condition that occurs in the womb (hormone or otherwise) that leads to homosexuality and doctors are able to indentify and "treat" the condition to ensure a heterosexuel child what would this mean to gay rights.

Does the child have the right to be "born gay" or does the mother or the parents have the right to determin the sexual preferences of their children.

It kinda relates to "choice" and "abortion". You have claimed the child has no right until its born.

Thrawn · « **Reply #28 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:42:05 PM »

The thing is there is nothing physically wrong with homosexuals, and remember they do come in two sexes. Homosexuality itself doesn't hurt anyone, so why try and eradicate it?

And don't sterotype all homosexuals based on those that like flaming out. There are plenty of gay guys that don't.

funkedup · « **Reply #29 on:** November 05, 2002, 04:44:11 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
"Survival of the Species is EVERYBODYS buisness"

...Darwin.

Now, ask again, and engage yer brain first; as to why being a proud homosexual is immoral.

Funked is right, his terminologly may be suspect, but he's right. "Being gay is ok" is the same as saying "alcoholisim is ok" and "sociopathic homicidal maniacs are ok".

The products of a sick society and P.C. mentality.

If homosexual behavior is gene identifiable, it's a fair target for eradication.

Hang there are some who have theorized that homosexuality might be some sort of population control mechanism that has kicked in to save us from ourselves. And how can you be sure that homosexuals would have been good parents if they had turned out to be "breeders". Maybe they would be more likely to raise individuals who were less "evolutionarily fit".
So I'm not sure you can make an argument against homosexuality on evolutionary grounds. It might end up being beneficial to the survival of the species in the long run.

And there are also many things which might be beneficial to the survival of our species which are most definitely immoral (at least by my standards) like sterilizing the poor and retarded, euthanizing the elderly, etc.

So I don't think you have a real strong case.