Author Topic: Boycott AH until PIZZA MAP comes around again! (Read 526 times)

Ripsnort · « **on:** November 06, 2002, 09:03:46 AM »

Thank you.

popeye · « **Reply #1 on:** November 06, 2002, 09:08:08 AM »

Just seeing the words, "boycott" and "pizza" used in the same sentence seems so....wrong.

Saurdaukar · « **Reply #2 on:** November 06, 2002, 12:05:44 PM »

So thats how you get to 14,653 posts.

AKIron · « **Reply #3 on:** November 06, 2002, 12:08:23 PM »

Will be watching TV and gettin' in some family time (now where'd I put them) 'till that pizza map comes around. AH sucks without the pizza.

BUG_EAF322 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 06, 2002, 12:29:43 PM »

The small maps are to crowdy
The MA becomes one big furball

Drunky · « **Reply #5 on:** November 06, 2002, 12:34:38 PM »

Agreed

ccvi · « **Reply #6 on:** November 06, 2002, 01:39:07 PM »

Just imagine that everyone follows this call to avoid pizza.

We would never get rid of it!

Innominate · « **Reply #7 on:** November 06, 2002, 02:04:16 PM »

The pizza map may not be a perfect map, but in all but the off-peak hours, the small maps are way too small.

Some people enjoy simply furballing all night long, the more pilots in the area the better. Let them furball all they want, great, on akdesert, they dont bother me, the n1k2spitla7pony dweebs can furballl till thier heart's content. I can avoid it if i please. Sticking to areas with smaller fights.

On the 256 maps it simply isn't possible. During prime time the 256 maps are nothing but lines of furballs along the front lines. You can furball, hop in a GV, or log off.

In addition to this choice, akdesert offers a huge span of altitudes to fight at. Most fights happen at a few thousand feet above ground level. On the 256 maps, this means virtually all fighting is under 10,000feet. Akdesert however, has numerous fields where the same fights happen at 10k-15k feet. This encourages the use of different planes, instead of simply the best low-level fighters.

We need more 512 maps. Ones that aren't such eyesores. With as wide of a range of field altitudes as is practical. Unrealistic, even impossible, terrains may not be any good for scenarios, but for the MA, can be perfect.

J_A_B · « **Reply #8 on:** November 06, 2002, 02:58:42 PM »

"You can furball, hop in a GV, or log off. "

Depends on what country you play for and what situation that country is in....AND on which particular map is in the rotation.

UNLESS your country is down to like 6 bases, I cannot imagine how that can POSSIBLY be true on any map except perhaps Mindanao (yes Mindanao is something of a furball map)....I have NEVER seen a situation on BALTIC, Uterus, or NDISLES where the two larger countries didn't have some route to avoid the main fight if they wished to do so. NDISLES is especially good for that. Yes if your country is "in the bucket" then options will be limited...but that is also true on AKDESERT and is caused by the poor AH reset conditions, not by the particular map in the rotation.

As for the 512 map size....it's decent at peak hours, but at off-peak hours (which BTW is more than half the day) player density is too low. It is positively horrible at low hours unless you want to avoid all other players or have only 1 vs 1's, and if that's the case you may as well fly offline or in H2H.

Personally I don't think the 512 map size is necessery; rather future terrains of the 256 size should make sure to use the ENTIRE map space and not waste large amounts of it. Look at Mindanao (the most complained-about map prior to AKDESERT)--it wastes a massive amount of the map space. "Uterus" suffers from the same problem to a degree--too much wasted space--and even BALTIC and NDISLES aren't 100% perfect with regards to land usage.

J_A_B

Innominate · « **Reply #9 on:** November 06, 2002, 03:53:26 PM »

Even with perfect land usage, 256 is way too small. a 512 map that wastes a lot of space in the same way as mindy or uterus is IMO the best way to go for right now.

J_A_B · « **Reply #10 on:** November 06, 2002, 04:04:12 PM »

"a 512 map that wastes a lot of space in the same way as mindy or uterus is IMO the best way to go for right now."

That would work too

J_A_B

Wlfgng · « **Reply #11 on:** November 06, 2002, 05:13:08 PM »

agreed. after messing with the TE it's easy to see how this would work.

IMO it's the best idea yet. I'd be willing to bet there are at least a few terrains like this already in development.

it just takes a hell of a long time to make one of these babies.

Innominate · « **Reply #12 on:** November 06, 2002, 05:13:56 PM »

Just logged off of the uterus map, WAY too crowded. Nothing but hundred player furballs.

Puck · « **Reply #13 on:** November 06, 2002, 05:23:53 PM »

Quote

Originally posted by Innominate
Just logged off of the uterus map, WAY too crowded. Nothing but hundred player furballs.

...and right in the middle is Lazs having an orgasm in his FM2...

J_A_B · « **Reply #14 on:** November 06, 2002, 06:14:05 PM »

"Just logged off of the uterus map, WAY too crowded. Nothing but hundred player furballs."

I guess you weren't looking at the map very hard! Shortly after you posted that, I went online and took a screenshot of the map situation. I believe you are a BISHOP, so I did the following:

Big fights are circled in YELLOW
Recommended attack routes to AVOID the big fights are WHITE arrows.

As is plainly evident, there are plenty of options for the Bishops to launch attacks without having to fly into the large fights should they wish to do so. No options but to furball? I think not!

J_A_B