Author Topic: ID the A/C 2585 (Read 356 times)

whgates3 · « **on:** November 06, 2002, 10:57:40 PM »

hint: its a bomber

palef · « **Reply #1 on:** November 07, 2002, 07:45:14 PM »

Mitsubishi G3M "Nell"

palef

whgates3 · « **Reply #2 on:** November 07, 2002, 07:50:30 PM »

that is correct.
200 points & control of the board to Mr. Palef.

nice action shot, eh?

palef · « **Reply #3 on:** November 07, 2002, 08:01:20 PM »

Very nice Mr Gates

Is that shot from the Manchuria campaign?

regards

palef

whgates3 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 07, 2002, 08:19:41 PM »

that bit of info is beyond me - got this image off the web & the caption was not that specific

palef · « **Reply #5 on:** November 07, 2002, 08:46:45 PM »

Thanks anyway - love the flak bursts.

The tail markings look pre-WWII to me.

palef

MiloMorai · « **Reply #6 on:** November 08, 2002, 06:29:14 AM »

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Originally posted by palef
The tail markings look pre-WWII to me.

palef

Do you mean WW2 as in with American involvment?

The tail marking look simular to those sed by the Mihoro Kokutai in northern China, 1941 and the 3rd Kokutai in French Indo-China, 1941. (horizontal strips)

palef · « **Reply #7 on:** November 08, 2002, 04:42:08 PM »

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Originally posted by MiloMorai
Do you mean WW2 as in with American involvment?

The tail marking look simular to those sed by the Mihoro Kokutai in northern China, 1941 and the 3rd Kokutai in French Indo-China, 1941. (horizontal strips)

MiloMorai, yes you are right I meant pre-US involvement in South East Asia. Looking at the relative tightness of that flak pattern, I would guess French Indo-China, but then I may be doing the Chinese a disservice with that comment.

Thanks for the info, I'll have to do some reading.

Palef

Fancy · « **Reply #8 on:** November 08, 2002, 04:46:41 PM »

That stagger flap screams out Junkers. Did the Japanese borrow German technology?

whgates3 · « **Reply #9 on:** November 08, 2002, 05:51:43 PM »

late in WWII the japanese got a lot of german tech; jets, rockets, etc. & the japanese also got 7 different heinkels (the He 70, 74B, 112, 116, 118, 100 & 119) for testing, & at least a dozen He112, which may have been in combat in china...the real mistake is that the germans dont seem to have received any japanese aircraft. if they'd had zekes in the Battle of Britan as well as 109s it could have made a huge difference

Widewing · « **Reply #10 on:** November 08, 2002, 06:08:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Fancy
That stagger flap screams out Junkers. Did the Japanese borrow German technology?

I have read where the Mitsubishi G3M design team pointed to the Dornier Do 17 as a source of inspiration. This seems reasonable as the Dornier made its first flight just around the same time design work began on the "Nell".

My regards,

Widewing