Gunnery Training/Exercises

[RightF00T]

     I hate to outfly an opponent then when it's time to shoot, miss and either get shot down or the resulting melee results in you low and slow on the deck with 2 La7s and their mamas crawling up your tailpipe.

     Are there any gunnery exercises/articles I can do to improve my hit %.  Its getting to the point where I'm missing B17s at 0 degree deflection at 100yds.  

Please help if not for me but as a basis for others struggling to put their lead in the right place...

[J_A_B]

The offline drones are good for gunnery practice.  You can attack them from different angles to simulate different conditions.

J_A_B

[Montezuma]

Originally posted by J_A_B
The offline drones are good for gunnery practice.  You can attack them from different angles to simulate different conditions.

J_A_B

You can also set your ammo to 10X normal offline, so you don't have to keep getting a new plane.

[Soulyss]

ONe thing that others have recommended to me (but so far been to chicken to try out online) is to turn tracers OFF.  At first of course you're gonna hit things even less often but after awhile (or so the theory goes) you begin to learn where to put the pipper to get a hit.  I can't vouch for the validity of this theory but I know some people swear by it, and the reasoning seems sound enough.

[Blank]

ok I find if I cop and change gunsights it screws up my aim, its nice for the immersion to have RL sights in each plane but if you fly alot of different ones make them all the same.

I used to practice shooting down those drones alot, from dead 6, snap shots, HO's the lot.

I am now happy with where to aim and I fly with tracers off as I find it helps, especially on those sneaky low 6 attacks as they never see what hit them, no tracers flying by to warn them

(262 with those potatoe guns though tracers on, or i cant hit chit)

Also if you set your convergence so that for example at 300yards all rounds meet at centre of target irrespective of whether they are 13mm or 30mm (ex 109 g-10, nose set to 600, other guns at 300), you can start fireing with the mg to help with aim and once hit sprites are seen, open up with 30mm = BOOM and less 30mm waste.

hope this helps a bit

[cobra427]

find or make a sight that fits your needs get a buddy and do a H2H game take turns on the offensive and you will get better thats what i did

[HeLLcAt]

You just have to get the feel for the right amount of lead. This takes experience obviously. I have flown with tracers off JUST in .50 cal planes because I like the other players not knowing when I am about to shoot and the .50's shoot fairly straight. I use tracers for German, Japenese, Russian, Italian, and British aircraft because most of their bullets DO NOT go as straight as the .50's do in the American planes. How I learned how to shoot is this; for 15 minutes offline, tracers off (in .50's planes), before I went to bed I just shot the drones down and I simulated different angles, turning lead shots, 9 oclock pos., 3 oclock pos. shots and you get a feel for the lead and online EVERYTHING changes, you can kill planes that you would think that you would NEVER have the angle before to kill them. I have a whole list of different things you could do to test yourself, so email me at lmpbzktsk82004@yahoo.com for some of them.

[Ack-Ack]

The best way to improve your gunnery skills is to turn off your tracers and fly offline for a few hours shooting at the drones.  When you feel comfortable enough, go to the MA.  It will take about a week for you to get used to having tracers off but the pay off is worth it.  

When I still had tracers on, my hit % was a terrible 2% and now that I have them off, my hit %  is around 9% now.  It would be higher but I strafe a lot of ground targets in fighter mode and that puts a major hit on your hit%


Ack-Ack

[guttboy]

Just a simple question......just how are the % computed?  Also, if you randomly dump ord when upping and then deciding not to use it does this effect your scoring or %?  Does this then in turn effect your ranking?  

I have never quite understood this and would love the answer!

Thanks guys

[Tyro48]

First offline head due N. If you have set your convergence to say 400 yard then while your flying N open the text buffer and type .target 400 and see if your rounds are landing where you want them to ,also let your plane attain max level speed before you start firing. You can go to http://www.simhq.com combat corner and read Andy Bush's articles on deflection shooting, what kind of lead you need for different AOA etc. a lot to learn there about alotta things.

[MaddogJoe]

simhq's article was very good, but a bit confusing, So I put together an easier explaination on the Mafias site. check it out by going to the Mafia Site , click on the Aces High Info link then on Air to Air Targetting.

Maddog Joe

[MutleyBR]

Hi RightFOOT!
The best advices i've seen for improving gunnery are:
1) Get a good deflection sight and learn how to use it. I use a custom made sight with deflection marks, HO reference, straffing reference and JABO reference; here's mine, whit it i sometimes get a 900/1000 yards hit on a steady target.... If you need further explanation on how to use it, just let me know and i'll post it here...


2) Offline click on "setup", "arena settings" there you'll find many parameters to change. There's one called "gun ammo multiplier", click on it and slide te control to the maximum(10x). This way, when u fly offline you get 2400 cannon rounds for a Spit IX. You can train a lot without having to rearm often.

3) For JABO training in teh same "arena settings" change "Protect Objects" to off(zero). This way you take off from any base and you can bomb or straffe your own base. It saves you the time you have to loose flying to an enemy base. And you don't get ack fire to interfere with your training.



Hope this helps and don't have you on my 6 after this!

[MaddogJoe]

I wish the site was there, always like checking out new sites  

[guttboy]

Mutley,
Could you please explain your gunsight?  I am not sure on how to use it and would like to use it if it helps.

Thanks in advance!:)

[MutleyBR]

Hi Guttboy!
First go to previous posting, right-click my sight image and choose save, saving it to your ..\Aces High\sights\  folder. I f you want to change it, just load it in a bitmap editor (I use JASC's Paint Shop Pro) and design your own. Just don't chage the color palette for it may not work in AH and show as a black square, for example.
Once loade in AH, go to setup menu, gunsights, click on the  plane you want to use(let's say, P-51D), then click on Mutley.bmp then click on "Set P-51D position P to Mutley.bmp". In this menu there is a slider that controls gunsight "Alpha"(transparency) set it to your liking. I use about 3/4 up. See pic below.

The next picture is self-explantory


This is how it should look for a good deflection shot.....



And here a no go shot.......



For JABO bombing, just do your dive and place target under the lower "stairs" and drop your bombs or rockets. For rockets i usually salvo them for half the total. In Typhoon, for example(8 rockets) I set salvo to 4(nice against GV's).
For shooting distant planes,  900 yards, for example, aim using central (straffing) area and rock the nose up/down a little until you see hit sprites...
Sorry for the size of this..... Finishes on next posting......