justice priorities?

[Animal]

Originally posted by ra
Most places this knife-wielding nutcase would have been jailed.  San Francisco is different.  At least the good guy won this one, or at least didn't lose.

ra

...good guy?

[mrfish]

Originally posted by Eagler
you should have ran him down and kicked his bum arse, self defense

no kiddin  - i was so mad..... and hadn't even had my coffee yet  but....

the way our system is he'd have sued me and some willowy elitist liberal jury would make sure i spent the rest of my life paying off the judgment while he sat back and drank rot-gut and smoked crack.  

enough of my earnings have gone to them as it is...besides, the irony might have caused me to die of amazement. i don't carry a weapon because i am 100% certain i'd use it.

[Udie]

Originally posted by mrfish
no kiddin  - i was so mad..... and hadn't even had my coffee yet  but....

the way our system is he'd have sued me and some willowy elitist liberal jury would make sure i spent the rest of my life paying off the judgment while he sat back and drank rot-gut and smoked crack.  

enough of my earnings have gone to them as it is...besides, the irony might have caused me to die of amazement. i don't carry a weapon because i am 100% certain i'd use it.

 Man I can't believe how mean you are to the unfortunate in our society!  Good God man can't you see all he was doing was asking you for help?!?!?!  Not only are you a racist and a bigot, but you are a meany wieney too!

[Curval]

I think that this guy deserves to have his bellybutton kicked...no doubt.

Does he deserve this:

"2 shots to the pump (heart) and one to the computer (brain). "

Maybe.

But...there is a fine line between genius and insanity.  For all we know this guy could have the cure for cancer stored away in his drug infected mind.  But, lets not find out....let's shoot him.  Let's not try and help him get over his insanity..be it drug induced, or whatever...just get rid of him!

A short guy with a funny moustash had a similar solution to this particular societal problem in the late 30s and early 40s in Germany.

Many homeless drugged out individuals were once well respected hard working people who had horrible experiences in life.  One bum that lived near me, when I was in Toronto, had his whole family killed in a home invasion about ten years ago....the guy never recovered from it.  He was a beligerent cuss who used to threaten people all the time...and act very much like this guy.  But, after I learned of his past my attitude towards him changed somewhat.

Being judge, jury and executioner is harsh...to say the least.

[Animal]

Gladiatorial games.

[funkedup]

That's incredible.  Sounds like assault with a deadly weapon.  He should be locked up.  I bet he's done it before too.  This is why they have that three strikes thing IIRC.

I bet if you had shot him, they would have tried you for murder.

SF is a f___ed up place.

If I lived someplace where things like that happened, I would be carrying 24/7, permit be damned.  No way is some hobo going to stab me to death.  "WE AIN'T GOIN' OUT LIKE THAT."

[funkedup]

Curval you gotta be kidding.  If somebody is trying to kill you with a deadly weapon, and you respond with deadly force, you're Hitler?

[GtoRA2]

"wait wait sir, before you stab me, lets talk about your past"


"Are you really smart?"

Swish, knife goes by.

"tell me about your mother"

AHHHH I have been stabbed..Well toejam, that was a dumb plan... now I am dead.

[Curval]

Originally posted by funkedup
Curval you gotta be kidding.  If somebody is trying to kill you with a deadly weapon, and you respond with deadly force, you're Hitler?

Come on funked...that is not what I said....read my post again.

[Kanth]

crying laughing here LMAO!!!

Originally posted by GtoRA2

"Are you really smart?"

Swish, knife goes by.

"tell me about your mother"

[Curval]

Originally posted by Curval
I think that this guy deserves to have his bellybutton kicked...no doubt.

Does he deserve this:

"2 shots to the pump (heart) and one to the computer (brain). "

Maybe.

Quoting myself here...I said maybe he does deserve to be shot.  But, given the fact that a few "taunts" got the guy to put down the knife it seems to me that he really had no intention of killing mrfish...and if mrfish had shot him I wonder how he would feel about it today.

I recall a post by spook that mentioned a cop that had shot and killed a person who was genuinly threatening his life.  The guy apparently had a great deal of difficulty coming to terms with that.  All you Rambos that talk alot of toejam here about shooting people really have no idea what it is like to kill someone, including me.

[easymo]

They must have cut the crazies loose out there.  I lived in San Bernardino for a while.  Up an top this big hill above the Airport.  There was a park up there, and I was up there with my then, 5 year old daughter, one day.  This guy came walking through the park very fast, talking loudly, and angrily to  invisible people. For some reason, he veered over to my daughter and started screaming at her. She started crying. he pivoted on his heel and took off again. This all happened in a matter of seconds.  I stepped over to my daughter, patted her on the head, told her it was ok, and to go back to playing with her friends.

  I then went to catch up with the guy.  As luck would have it, he was heading straight for my car.  When he got next to it I tripped him from behind.  As he was trying to get back up, I opened my car door, and slammed his head in it two or three times.  I figured if he was that crazy I would need to get his attention first.  I then told him to leave the little ones alone,or I would hunt him down and kill him. (roadkill of course.  But I think he believed me)

  There was more then one crazy bastard in that park that day. And, I don't see how his craziness superseded mine.

[funkedup]

Originally posted by Curval
Quoting myself here...I said maybe he does deserve to be shot.  But, given the fact that a few "taunts" got the guy to put down the knife it seems to me that he really had no intention of killing mrfish...and if mrfish had shot him I wonder how he would feel about it today.

I see what you mean, and agree with you.  Thx.

[Kanth]

Problem is, this guy pulled a knife and seemed like he intended to use it, or at least to assault someone with his bare hands.

it appears that he received a citation, which means he's still on the streets with his knife and his craziness.

So what do you do when you've been attacked with a deadly weapon and they just give the guy a ticket and let him go?

 Why would they not remove him from public as a danger?

Will it take him cornering some little defenseless stupid person and stabbing them several times because they aren't as clever as mrfish before he's removed?

It doesn't seem like enough to protect people trying to go about their lives.

Shooting him, ya it maybe over the top but at least it would ensure that he'd never ever attack someone again. What is the alternative?

It would appear that it's just citing him and letting him go on about his business. It's not right.

too bad it's so total or nonexistant.

[Kieran]

Mr. Fish is incredibly lucky, period.

Curval is out of his mind, period.

Forgive me if I assume a guy lunging at me with a knife intends to poke holes in me. Forgive me if the cure for cancer dies with him. I can get counseling for my trauma over killing him- but only if I am alive to seek it.

Now Mr. Fish knows this dude is out there loose and ready to pull this stunt on the next person- who might not be so lucky. Imagine how he might feel when the nightly news shows the blood-stained blanket of a stabbing victim as the backdrop to his friend, handcuffed, being shoved into the back of a squad car.

So... which guilt is worse?

I swear, Kanth, I must have been typing this as you posted. Great minds and all that stuff I guess...