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Offline Kieran

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« Reply #30 on: November 13, 2001, 06:12:00 AM »
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Total lack of feedback regarding customer concerns.
 

Ever play AH? It's a pretty good game, and the developers have plenty of close contact and feedback with the customers there. Try it!  ;)

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« Reply #31 on: November 13, 2001, 07:14:00 AM »
I like drinking beer while flying


 I dislike having to pee while fighting.

 xBAT
Of course, I only see what he posts here and what he does in the MA.  I know virtually nothing about the man.  I think its important for people to realize that we don't really know squat about each other.... definately not enough to use words like "hate".

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« Reply #32 on: November 13, 2001, 08:33:00 AM »
I like:
-HTC.   :)

-The game. All in all is well worth the 30$/month it costed, much more now with 15$/month.

-The perk system. Nice way to add rare birds without serious whinin' (lazs1 doesnt count as he whines about everything  <G> )

-The Fw190. Any game with this plane is worth a look   :D

-strat system

In fact is faster to say that I like most things of AH  :).


I dislike:

-Lack of more in-deep and important engine management (to keep the allied dweebs worried while I'm task-free in my kommandogėrated 190 <GDR> )

-Gameplay concessions that force more gameplay concessions to balance the unbalance created by the first gameplay concessions (understood?  :D).

-In flight dot radar (in flight bar dar is fine with me,but only showing cons over 500 feet. Under 500 feet no cons should be shown, period).

-190F8 lacks 80% of loadouts it carried historically.

-190D9 still suffering weird radiator damage. 190A fine now   :).

-Icon system with neon billboards wich make sneak attack attempts almost impossible. (WWIIOL is the most elegant icon system that I've seen, and I'm authorised to talk about)

-COmbat trim (tho is not much of a nuisance as it used to be)

-flap auto-retracting. Lack of combat flaps for german aircraft.

-laser rangefinder (closely related with icon system) allowing kills at relatively ultra-long distances.

-Hispano 1-ping wing rips from 1K.

-Fleet AAA. Field AAA. AAA in general. Ridiculous accuracy   :D.

-Ostie not perked (should be, and not a cheap one)

-Wind layers. unrealistic, and add nothing but frustration to the gameplay.

- FPS on the low 30s in the best of the cases, and averaging 20s, in a system wich should pull at least 45.  :mad:

-I lack HOTAS ------> Really deep hate this one   :D

[ 11-13-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]

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« Reply #33 on: November 13, 2001, 08:55:00 AM »
I like damn near everything about the game.

I really like:

the way HTC handles it and stays involved.
 
flying with and against people I haven't seen since AW DOS.

Mindanao terrain.

Stuff I don't like? That's a very short list, HO's and collisions. There must be a better way to model them than what we have but I'm sure not smart enough to know what it is.

Buzzard

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« Reply #34 on: November 13, 2001, 04:40:00 PM »
<<<.. er... um... do 109s have any nicknames??>>>

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« Reply #35 on: November 13, 2001, 04:57:00 PM »
I like the support we get
I like the options available  eg. trains, planes, boats and other things

I dont like whiners much
I don't like HO dweebs (its a bias of mine)
I don't like whiners with bad conns who claim they wouldnt have died if their conn was better  :)
I don't like the night (awright so I'm gettin old)
I don't like Spits  :)

That about does it for me <S>

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« Reply #36 on: November 13, 2001, 05:55:00 PM »
My deal with any MMPOG:

Best part of the game:  The people

Worst part of the game:  The people

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« Reply #37 on: November 13, 2001, 06:19:00 PM »
As far as a total lack of feedback goes.. I can only say what has been my experience.  I can give some examples:

Will there ever be a 109K in the game?  

<silence>

There is something wrong with the damage model for the 190A5 and A8, can you look into it?  

<Thunderous silence>

Why is the Ta-152 perked to such a degree as to make it virtually unseen in the MA?

<Roaring silence>

Etc., Etc., Etc.

In fact, what little feedback I DO see involves Hitech telling people that they don't deserve an answer because they are "whiners" (i.e. Supongo, Tac), or telling others just to stop "whining".  Not exactly what I would call constructive feedback, but I guess since I have a "victim mentality" (ask Karnak what that is, I'm sure he can explain it better than I can), maybe I'm just oversensative.

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« Reply #38 on: November 13, 2001, 06:51:00 PM »
First, the 109G-10 is essentially the K. This has been stated over and over, I personally have seen it many times.

Second, the standing answer on checking over anything is "provide evidence it is wrong." Again, I've seen this over and over.

Third, the concept of the perk is to make the ultra-late war stuff available without resorting to rolling plane set. It keeps the stuff relatively rare, yet provides a path for anyone to get one. I don't know how many ways this can be explained, I sure got it on the first pass. You guessed it, this has been stated over and over.

Now disagree with HTC on any of those points, no argument. To say HTC doesn't respond to the community is not fair in the least.

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« Reply #39 on: November 13, 2001, 11:01:00 PM »
I'd buy your response, on all of those points, except for the fact I disagree with it.  

First of all, there seems to be neither rhyme nor reason in the way the perk values are assigned.  Case in point, the F4U-1c and the Ta-152.  Both were late-war (summer of 1945 for the -1c if I'm not mistaken, and December of 1944 for the 152), small production runs (200 for the -1c, and something similar for the 152), that had absolutely no impact on the war whatsoever.  You can disagree with me here, but in my opinion if niether plane had been introduced, the outcome would have been the same for all parties involved.  In my opinion, the -1c is FAR superior to the 152 given the typical MA circumstances (low altitude, multiple plane engagements).  Furthermore, the -1c enjoys a 2,000 pound bomb payload, and rockets.  All this in addition to 4 of the best cannons in the game (again, my opinion) with 900 odd rounds.
The Ta-152 is a superior aircraft above 30,000 feet, below that it is a marginal aircraft at best.  Yet, one is perked into nonexistance, and the other is perked (extraordinarily cheaply) only AFTER usage reached mind-boggling levels.  Even with the 8 point cost, the F4U-1c is still in the top 10 for usage.  

Another fine example is the F4U-4.  The plane makes 380 mph on the deck, is armed with 6 .50 caliber machineguns... and costs 60 points to fly.  Thanks.. I'll fly an La-7 instead.  It makes 385 mph on the deck, is armed with 3 20mm cannons, and is absolutely free.  Or.. maybe I'll fly the F4U-1c instead.. it carries the same payload, plus it has roughly 5 times the hitting power with its 4 20mm Hispanos.  The F4U-4 is NOT an overwhelming dominant aircraft, I believe every time I've seen one I've shot it down (I could be wrong here, but I know I killed 2 in the same sortie in a 190A8.. which is hardly a well performing aircraft).  So please, you tell me, since HTC can't be bothered.  What is the rationale behind assigning perk values to planes?

On the second point, I'm not sure I understand exactly HOW we are supposed to "prove something is wrong, or we are just whining".  Exactly HOW was I supposed to show that in real life a 190A did NOT actually lose the engine if it took 1 hit anywhere on the aircraft?  As far as I know, there aren't any 190s flying these days, and I highly doubt that if there were the owner would let me take potshots at it from different angles, just to see what would happen.  

Even the long-raging, dead horse beating argument over buff guns can't be resolved.  Why?  Because HTC won't give us the tools to do it ourselves.  I really thought I had a good tool in the .target function, until I realized that it stayed in the same position relative to the aircraft, making it impossible to isolate a pair of guns to the extent necescary to test them.  Who is to say that buff guns do or do not hit harder than normal fighter guns?  Nobody.  Nobody can "prove" what they say, whether they do or do not believe that buff guns hit harder.  All that can be done is that people that think something is wrong keep speaking up, and people that believe there isn't a problem keep telling them to make their own game, or stop whining, etc. etc. etc.


On the last point (or first point), of COURSE the 109G10 in the game is "functionally equivalent" to the 109K4.  Everybody says it is, so that must be true, right?  And before you ask, no I haven't done any scientific studies comparing the Aces High 109 with the 109K4 that I actually own and fly in real life (I wish... but I guess that would be the only way to PROOVE my case).  I've only got what other people say to go on, namely that the K-4 climbed at 5200 FPM (which our G10 doesn't), and was equipped with tabs on the ailerons to assist in rolling the plane at high speeds.  Hell, I'd want a K-4 just for that reason alone.  I realize that adding a "new and improved" 109 to the game is probably very low on most peoples "wish-lists", but it'd be nice to have, in my opinion.  

I don't doubt that perhaps you have had excellent communication with HTC regarding your concerns and the manner that they would be addressed in, but I haven't had that.  So you'll have to pardon my opinion, I suppose.  I guess we will have to agree to disagree on this one.

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« Reply #40 on: November 13, 2001, 11:59:00 PM »
1.08 is still being sorted out, so concerns about the F4U4's cost should be deferred until after a few more tours. I think these perk planes all get adjusted over time (though I am not sure).

The 152 IS a very dangerous aircraft. The problem with it in the MA is the dweeby way it is flown. The 152 is NOT a low level furballer. It's not even a medium alt furballer. Upstairs, though, this plane kicks major ass. Finding a fight up there, though, is problematic.

Hmm, 190 should take more pings without engine dying. There's no doubt about that.

My opinion about 109 K4? We got enough 109's. BUT, might as well add it to the perk list. <G>

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« Reply #41 on: November 14, 2001, 06:17:00 AM »
Urchin-

I don't ask that you agree with me or anyone regarding the veracity of your concerns- that isn't my point at all. You have stated that we are all ignored by HTC, and that is not true at all. You haven't gotten the answers you want, true enough, but HTC has been present all over this BBS since day one. Wanna get ignored? I can send you to a few other sims and let you try your hand.  ;)

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« Reply #42 on: November 14, 2001, 08:26:00 AM »
I like:
- excellent 3d graphics with high detail
- the FM's 'feel' good (yeah I know, I should back it up with hard data, but people that have done AH aircraft performance comparison with hard data and sim tests, found out that many planes do match real life performance pretty close)
- the constant improvements of the game and the adding of more features on a regular basis.
- the damage models in general
- the community with alot of support and experts in various WWII aircraft fields
- the connectivity quality up to the last server upgrade,    ;)
- the support and dedication of HTC staff towards their customers

I don't like:
- the unreal ack and 88mm accuracy
- FW190 one-ping-engine dead syndrome, although I thought that this would be corrected in 1.08, it is still a problem
- the current random placement of trees, rocks etc, I would like to see some clear patches for the purpose of ditching a plane, i.e. groups of trees rather than random placement.
- map change system, I would like to see a maximum on the days a certain map is active (it sometimes takes weeks to reset to a map)
- 'fixed perk system', I would like a trial on a rolling perk system
- current resource system: I would like a more eleborate resource system being implemented.
- tendency towards adding late war planes rather than early war planes. Even though the succes ratio of early war planes in MA will probably be small I think they would be very usefull in events. And people that don't care about score will have alot of fun flying them (that goes for early allied AND axis planes)
- Although I understand the reason, I don't like the current connectivety quality and hope it will be resolved soon.

Although my list of 'i don't like:' is longer than the list of 'I do like:' that doesn't reflect my feeling towards the game.

In general, for me, AH rocks. Salute HTC!   :D

P.S. Cit, are you under contract with HTC for doing all these polls?    :D

[ 11-14-2001: Message edited by: Apar ]

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« Reply #43 on: November 14, 2001, 10:03:00 AM »
Urchin,

I don't wish to partake in throwing this thread off course, but I will interject some points.  

Our time spent on the BBS is inversely proportional to our workload.  It's neither possible nor a goal of ours to try and answer everything brought up on this board.  That would be more than a full-time job by itself.  That said, on your points I would have to disagree with you.  The 109K question has been addressed in the past and on subjects like that, any number of people can relay the salient points on the matter.  There was a damage bug fixed on the FW's this past version.  On the Ta-152, the cost was reduced.  To say that none of this is addressed is not true.  Look through our readme's with every version release and you'll find a very strong correlation between it and the feedback we receive on this board.

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« Reply #44 on: November 14, 2001, 11:53:00 AM »
Pyro, I know the 190 Engine damage was fixed in 1.08, and I heartily thank you for it.  However, for the LONGEST time, there was no response from HTC on it, and the only response we got was "stop whining" from other players.

Same with the Ta-152.  Yes, the price has been lowered.  Usage has still not increased.  Will the price be lowered until usage increases?  <Silence>

I have nothing but respect for you guys regarding this game.  Even with all my nagging and squeaking about little things, it is hands-down the BEST game of any genre I've ever had the pleasure of partaking in.  I also realize that you don't really have time to answer a lot of the posts on the BBS, but what does bother me is most of the responses seem to be snide one-liners (your present response excluded, of course).