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Offline cajun

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« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2002, 08:38:50 PM »
41' Malta Please!

..Looks like its going to be late late war pacific though :(
I don't think we ever had an Early Malta scenario period.. at least not since I have been playing in CT/MA
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« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2002, 09:55:00 PM »
Salute Cajun

No the setup I listed is a 'Mid' Malta....  ;)

We need the Glad, Swordfish, MC200 and CR42 to have an early Malta.

We also need the STUKA!!!!!

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« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2002, 10:03:22 PM »
Salute Eskimo

I don't want to include the Corsair for the reason that it wasn't operating off Carriers at this period in the war.

They arrived in '45 AFAIK.

And the Americans didn't have land bases within range at this point.

Plus the Corsair is just a little TOO fast for the Japanese plane set.  You can fly one and never die, just zip around maintaining your energy with those semi-laminar flow wings while you riddle the Ki61's and Zekes with your big ammo load.

I'm gonna stick with the Hellcat and Wildcat FM-2.  The F4f4 was not in service at this point with USN front line Squadrons.

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« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2002, 10:19:18 PM »
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Salute Cajun

No the setup I listed is a 'Mid' Malta....  ;)

We need the Glad, Swordfish, MC200 and CR42 to have an early Malta.

We also need the STUKA!!!!!


Yeah.. Think u could help me bribe HTC? :D :D

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« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2002, 01:56:32 AM »
Dont put Corsairs or F4F or FM2 in this setup. It will then just turn into another US biased planeset where the FM2 tie down the Japanese by turnfighting them while the Corsairs finish them off by BnZ. Having only the Hellcat in there actually means there is some risk to the US side, which scary these CV vulch dweebs, and is why they ask for Corsair and FM2...  Plus you yourself said it wasnt historical, and the USN navy wasnt so much full of variety from big CV for a long time having only Hellcats. :)

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« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2002, 07:24:30 AM »
As I recall, there were a number of jeep-carrier squadrons participating in the Leyte Gulf operations that operated FM-2's (the "Taffy" fleets).  I agree with Buzzbait that the F4U should be left out.

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« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2002, 08:19:16 AM »
Setup 3 please, but that mid war tunisia looks good for later (the spit V, hurri 2 and p40e setup).

Leave the setup as is, maybe increase flak as stated above.

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« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2002, 02:55:17 PM »
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Leave the setup as is, maybe increase flak as stated above.


I think the Japanese are allready going to have a hard time with the flack since most battles will very likely involve CVs near Jap bases.  As soon as we break 3K, our little glass planes  be getting pounded.  Is it possible to turn down the flack, but increase the ack at the same time?

Oh, forget it, I'll just fly Allied!  :)

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« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2002, 03:30:03 PM »
Eskimo, all ground/fleet flak and ack are controlled by a single variable for each country, "GroundLethality", or something like that.  So we can make all IJN AAA more lethal than all Allied AAA, but we can't make the Allied flak (i.e. puffy-flak) less lethal than the Allied small calibre ack (i.e. laser-ack).

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« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2002, 03:55:32 PM »
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Salute

Oh yeah, forgot for Setup #3

Could put the FM-2 Wildcat on one of the US Carriers instead of Hellcat.

FM-2's were only assigned to Jeep and Escort Carriers, which didn't travel with Halsey's big TF34 which had all fast ESSEX class CV's.

Not that historical to include it, but would provide some variety.


Want to add variety? Halsey's Task Force was supported by the 5th Air Force flying P-38s, B-25s, A-20s and B-17s. Need specifics?
I can get them for you.

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« Reply #25 on: November 12, 2002, 04:36:08 PM »
Lets see, being CO of VF27 Hellcats ummmm my choice would be ummmmm oh well ill pick 3!  Shewwwey that was difficult, and oh ya eskimo dont u dare go runnin off to the ma, or fly allied, that would be down right depressing. I cant even begin to imagine gettin killed by anyone else!  Lol

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« Reply #26 on: November 12, 2002, 04:47:30 PM »
I say Malta, let them damn VF-27 sailors swim in sand.:D
Actually the PTO set up looks good.
Oh and BTW guys it's been a while since we've had a P-47 in the setups. Instead of the same RAF vs LW Med setups. How about a 1943/44 Itailian set up with some P47s in the mix.
This constant bias against the jug must end!!!!;)

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« Reply #27 on: November 12, 2002, 04:51:11 PM »
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Lets see, being CO of VF27 Hellcats ummmm my choice would be ummmmm oh well ill pick 3!  Shewwwey that was difficult, and oh ya eskimo dont u dare go runnin off to the ma, or fly allied, that would be down right depressing. I cant even begin to imagine gettin killed by anyone else!  Lol


OK, but only if the CMs turn the fleet ack down so low that I can vulch you guys while your still on the carrier deck?  

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« Reply #28 on: November 12, 2002, 06:56:06 PM »
Ack never bothered you before,hell i think you even killed me in the tower once!

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« Reply #29 on: November 12, 2002, 09:43:01 PM »
Salute

Just to  clarify:

This is not Leyte Gulf.

It is intended to represent one of the softening up missions which Halsey did during and immediately subsequent to the invasion of Saipan.

Not the great Marianas Turkey shoot, but after that.

AFAIK, there were no land based aircraft, with the exception of multi engined bombers, which could reach the Phillipines.