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Offline H. Godwineson

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Is there anything in england that is better than in the states?
« Reply #135 on: November 14, 2002, 08:44:17 AM »
GtoRa2,

larrapin - May be French in origin.  My mother's people were French Huguenots who moved into Arkansas from Louisiana.  They've used this word for as long as I can remember.  It is something that is said immediately after tasting something that's REALLY good:  "Man, that's larrapin!"

sho'nuff? - You say this after someone has made a statement that is unbelievable or somewhat humorous.  "Sho'nuff, are ya'll serious?"

puddinentain - A sign of affection...usually said by a mother to a small child.  I believe it was part of a childhood poem...but I just don't remember.

dem dere - "Hand me dem dere pliars."

Whaddat? -  What's that?

deepeople - A contraction or corruption of "These people" most often heard among our darker brethren;  "Deepeople need to sit down on this bus."

S'mo - Gimme s'mo chicken.

landogoshen -  Another word that is used to respond to an unbelievable statement made by another person:  "Well landogoshen! You don't mean it?!"

upbrangin - He wouldn't ack datway ifluff'n he hadda proper upbrangin.

Shuckins - Something my Grandfather said when he was being teased, or heard something unexpected or humorous;  "Well shuckins!"

Regards, Shuckins

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« Reply #136 on: November 14, 2002, 08:53:05 AM »
dowding... the empire was dying in a half a dozen places before WWI gave em an excuse to fold up like a cheap card table under a fat lady..  No thanks on imitating either the greatness that was england or the current decline.  

Irish? Braveheart?  Seems that it is your own Scotts who are more influenced by the film braveheart than I wver was.

so... being able to understand one word in ten is a good thing?

didn't say the japanesse were incapable of academic work but they are not known for it and they are not known for being unbiased... they are known for underestimating other races/countries.   The fact remains that such a study would be very difficult to do and come up with anything but a wild estimation.   I don't see any colaborating evidence.   Where is the site for the study or how do I get it?

4th largest economy?  behind who in 3rd?   Can you point me to that info too please?

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« Reply #137 on: November 14, 2002, 10:05:29 AM »
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didn't say the japanesse were incapable of academic work but they are not known for it and they are not known for being unbiased... they are known for underestimating other races/countries.


Surely you are joking? Are you an academic? Last I heard you were a gun toting, SWAT member wannabe. I fail to see how you can qualify anything you have written with either experience or knowledge. I've studied with Japanese academics and their research was very thorough - kindly explain where your experience lies? Surely if the Japanese underestimate nations/races (I haven't a clue how this is even vaguely relevant), how have they managed to overestimate in their study?

Here's the report:

http://britannia.com/panorama/ideas.html

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so... being able to understand one word in ten is a good thing?


I suppose if you were an ignorant, arrogant Yank who expects everything to be 'as it is back home' and is dissappointed if his deeply held illusions are dispelled, then you would find it a bad thing. Fortunately, not every American has that outlook and it's a shame they aren't more vocal.

I understand the dialect, having grown up there - but I can talk with a perfectly understood accent if needs be.

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4th largest economy? behind who in 3rd? Can you point me to that info too please?


For a start here's some information on the GDP of the Capital cities of Europe (research compiled by Barclays bank):

1 London 158.7

2 Paris 88.6

3 Milan 74.2

4 Madrid 65.6

5 Rome 58.1

6 Berlin 49.4

7 Hamburg 45.6

8 Munich 45.4

9 Barcelona 43.2

10 Stockholm 36.9

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/low/business/1978788.stm

"According to the U.S. Department of Commerce's FY2002 U.K. report, the U.K. is the world's fourth largest economy and sports relatively low rates of taxation and inflation. U.K. consumers tend to be very receptive to U.S. goods and services. The U.K. remains the United States' largest European market and fourth largest market worldwide after Canada, Mexico, and Japan. And once marketers have a foothold in the U.K., it becomes a gateway to the rest of the EU."

http://www.usatrade.gov/Website/CCG.nsf/CCGurl/CCG-UK2002-CH-1:-0059F623

"The United Kingdom (UK) is the world's fourth largest economy, and is a trading nation with a generally open market and a "level playing field". The UK is a member of the European Union (EU), but has not committed to signing up for the Euro. It attracts U.S. exporters and investors as a place in which to do business, because of the common language, a similar legal framework and business practices, and relatively low rates of taxation and inflation. Once here, it is easy for American firms to use the UK as a gateway to the rest of the EU. There are very few sectors in which foreign ownership is limited, and no restriction on the repatriation of capital and profit. Within the EU, the British Government supports the rights of any company registered in the UK, irrespective of the nationality of its ultimate parent."

Anything else?

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« Reply #138 on: November 14, 2002, 10:49:25 AM »
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dowding... the empire was dying in a half a dozen places before WWI gave em an excuse to fold up like a cheap card table under a fat lady..  No thanks on imitating either the greatness that was england or the current decline.  
lazs


The US has its own colonial empire including, but not limited to Hawaii, PR and the US Virgin Islands.

Also the US had a form of semi-colonialism going on during the Cold War.  They got lots of bases (which if you asked the Marine guards at the gate were Property of the USofA) from which they helped protect the interests of all of us...but the US in particular.

Later...when they were done, and budget restraints forced the military to cut back...they left.  And my, my, my, what a frigging mess they left...and I don't mean a political mess...I mean a real mess.

We currently estimate that the little bitty base they left here will cost over $50 million to clean up.  Will America pay...hell no.  The pollution is so bad that it now threatens our water table.

Thanks America.:(
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« Reply #139 on: November 14, 2002, 11:46:56 AM »
There can be few who have the ability to best the British at the game of imperialism.  Just ask the citizens of Egypt, South Africa, India, Saudi Arabia, the Sudan, Transjordan, Somalia, China, Burma and Indonesia.

"The sun never sets on the British Empire."

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« Reply #140 on: November 14, 2002, 11:49:30 AM »
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We currently estimate that the little bitty base they left here will cost over $50 million to clean up.  Will America pay...hell no.  The pollution is so bad that it now threatens our water table.

Thanks America.:(


Where would "here" be?  Vieques?

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« Reply #141 on: November 14, 2002, 11:57:26 AM »
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There can be few who have the ability to best the British at the game of imperialism.  Just ask the citizens of Egypt, South Africa, India, Saudi Arabia, the Sudan, Transjordan, Somalia, China, Burma and Indonesia.

"The sun never sets on the British Empire."

Shuckins


That much is true..no doubt.  The thing is that they were the colonial rulers in the Colonial Age...a time when a nation was not really considered a nation until it had colonies to protect.  Things change.  

Those countries that you mention sure have done well since the Brits left though...I must say!  But, I'm sure it is all the fault of the British right?:rolleyes:
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« Reply #142 on: November 14, 2002, 11:59:45 AM »
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Where would "here" be?  Vieques?


No..not Vieques.  Bermuda.

Sorry, but I had to take out my country from my profile.  Too many Americans were using it as a reason for me NOT to have an opinion because it is a small insignificant island.
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« Reply #143 on: November 14, 2002, 12:03:12 PM »
LOL! Curval's from Bermuda.... but he can be found in any thread bashing the U.S.

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« Reply #144 on: November 14, 2002, 12:11:17 PM »
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LOL! Curval's from Bermuda.... but he can be found in any thread bashing the U.S.

AKDejaVu


Isn't this an England bashing thread?  I'm merely defending...not bashing.

Besides, I don't bash America per se...I bash Americans who think that the world revolves around them.

...and Gofaster...see what I mean?
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« Reply #145 on: November 14, 2002, 12:26:53 PM »
Besides, I don't bash America per se...I bash Americans who think that the world revolves around them.

So do I! :D

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« Reply #146 on: November 14, 2002, 12:27:08 PM »
Wow curval... you're really a piece of work.
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Isn't this an England bashing thread? I'm merely defending...not bashing.
Its strange... I did not see any mention of England in your post.  I did see several instances where the U.S. was mentioned... never in a defensive tone.
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Besides, I don't bash America per se...I bash Americans who think that the world revolves around them.
You start out bashing America, then procede to label anyone that defends as people who think the world revolve around them.

Eventually we'll learn... the world really revolves around you.

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« Reply #147 on: November 14, 2002, 12:40:22 PM »
Deja...if you notice I have only just jumped into this thread...on page 3.  The British guys who have posted on this page before me, and on pages one or two were doing a fine job of defending England...so I stayed out.

I was commenting on the colonial/imperialist label being pasted on England and was just pointing out the hypocrisy.  Living on a colony of Britain surely I have a right to do that, no?:rolleyes:

and Deja...possibly the best defense..is a good offense.:p
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« Reply #148 on: November 14, 2002, 02:39:00 PM »
dowding... hummm... in the unamed japanesse study that claimed 40% (reported in a british paper btw) of all inventions "originated" in GB.... they go on to say that 11,400 patents were applied for in 1996.... that seems like less than a fifth of the patents awarded to U.S. holders alone.    Perhaps you meant only certain types of inventions?

I don't care what the BBC thinks about cities in europe and their economies and so didn't ask...  

The BBC paper that claimed GB as the 4th largest ecomomy by GNP.... did not name the other three ranks.   All I asked was who was number 3.

I still don't see how being more british like would not simply be a step down from where we are right now.
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« Reply #149 on: November 14, 2002, 09:17:26 PM »
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Besides, I don't bash America per se...I bash Americans who think that the world revolves around them.


Reading this board, I dont find this to be a prevailing American disposition.  

I just wonder what it is inside some of you people that makes you feel you need to come on a board that you know is majority American, and start spouting off about how bad Americans are, how are guns laws suck, our cars suck, our lives suck, we such, our beer sucks.......etc.

What is the point? What drives it?