Author Topic: Is there anything in england that is better than in the states?  (Read 3813 times)

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Is there anything in england that is better than in the states?
« Reply #90 on: November 12, 2002, 07:16:41 PM »
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1. knowing I can have a car accident and not lose my house family etc in bills or wonder who's going to pay for the ambulance.

That's not a problem.  I don't know anybody here who has that problem.

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2. A walk in the country 5 mins from home without worrying about getting a gun stuck in my face by the land owner.

I have only seen a land owner with a gun once, and the only reason he had a gun is because my friends and I were armed and poaching on his land.

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3. Not having armed guards patroling the schools

That's a bit scary, but it wasn't my experience in school.

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4. REAL engineering talent - most F1 and sportscar racing stuff originates here - Ferrari - Ross Brawn - oh yes a Brit.

I answered that above.

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5. Better special forces - probably - funny how 4 Commando had to go to Afghanistan to do the tricky bits.

Yeah the US forces just sat back and watched.  :rolleyes:

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6. Real houses built on concrete foundations with bricks blocks and mortar - not matchwood.

I don't think I've ever seen a house in the states that didn't have a concrete foundation.  As for blocks and mortar, we don't have any buildings like that where I live, because structures of that type fall apart easily during earthquakes.  Our wooden houses are much more resistant to REAL forces.  Of course if your engineering talent wasn't off designing gokarts or whatever you might know that.

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« Reply #91 on: November 12, 2002, 09:02:01 PM »
a while back somone posted pics of the princess of sweden i thought .....
spent dmn near an hour looking for that post to no avail ...

but SHE is what europe has and we dont :D
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« Reply #92 on: November 12, 2002, 09:17:28 PM »
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Britain. Population 60 million. No natural resources at all. Relatively small oil/natural gas fields with high cost of extraction. Has had to defend itself against it's neighbours for its entire history. Has had to expand to maintain level of development and to preserve its sovereignty.


Ya don't forget history, brits had the world wrapped around their finger not to long ago.  You also had rule over this country but like every other one you invaded y'all got the boot.

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« Reply #93 on: November 12, 2002, 09:19:26 PM »
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[BTronski, Welsh is British.[/B]


Yup I know mate, but the original topic was about England (not GB) and you must remember how completely specific this BBS has you be , lest someone comes along and corrects you :D

Hey....at least I didn't post a pic of Becks instead...

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« Reply #94 on: November 12, 2002, 09:35:43 PM »
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Originally posted by funkedup
Corvette and Viper would eat any limey sportscar for breakfast.  The last thing limeys should be bragging about is their automotive industry.

As for "real engineering" - F1 guys are just guys who couldn't hack it in aerospace.  Real technology is things like space flight and fighter planes.  Last I saw the limeys were hitching rides on our space ships and buying our fighters.


Bahahhahahaa!!!  ...wait you werent kidding right?

Check out a little thing called a McLaren F1 road,  Astin Martin Vanquish, TVR Tuscan (not that I care, I wouldn't stop to look at any of them on my way to buy a 575M Maranello -  well maybe the F1) etc etc

As for F1 race teams ...hardly even worth nibbling the bait I would think...

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« Reply #95 on: November 12, 2002, 10:22:06 PM »
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Originally posted by JB73
a while back somone posted pics of the princess of sweden i thought .....
spent dmn near an hour looking for that post to no avail ...

but SHE is what europe has and we dont :D


http://www.hello-magazine.com/royalty/sweden/tree.html#

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« Reply #96 on: November 12, 2002, 10:33:40 PM »
Oh, ya! She's a honey!  Victoria or Madeleine, both are quite photogenic.

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« Reply #97 on: November 12, 2002, 10:52:32 PM »
OK I'll give you the McLaren F1.  But it has a German engine.
And it's out of production and it cost $1M new.

The other two are just Viper food.

If you want to excite me, let's talk about an Elise Sport 190.  :)
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« Reply #98 on: November 12, 2002, 11:48:25 PM »
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The Star Spangled Banner is about the fall of old Fort Detroit.


And all this time, I thought it was Fort McHenry...
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« Reply #99 on: November 13, 2002, 12:20:36 AM »
A mach 2 airliner .

And history more than 70 years old.


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« Reply #100 on: November 13, 2002, 02:54:02 AM »
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Corvette and
Last I saw the limeys were hitching rides on our space ships and buying our fighters.


Speaking not as a limey, which fighter would that be?

The AV8B? Neat design that, VTOL, pegasus engine design etc. As used by the USMC. Oh wait, Invented and designed in Britain.

In fact  (not being an expert in any sense, so I prepare to be corrected) I can't think of a single US fighter in service with RAF, apart from the AH64, which of course can't fire its missiles without spraying its tail rotor with debris.

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« Reply #101 on: November 13, 2002, 05:09:34 AM »
Last one we bought was the Phantom, but that was phased out in the early nineties/late eighties in favour of the Tornado.

I think we plan to buy the JSF, but that's a joint project between the US and the UK?

As for cars. I'd rather take a TVR Tuscan or Vanquish around Silverstone than a Corvette or Viper any day of the week.

And Laz - that 40% figure wasn't dreamt up by me. It was the findings of independent Japanese academic work. I know you would rather not believe it, because it flies in the face of the views you hold dear, but it's a fact. Get over it.

As for Britain and her Empire. My point about the size of Britain compared to the US is this: Britain (as was) went from a small, weak Protestant nation with a small navy to the dominant global force that was the Empire. All this came from an island with a fifth the population of the US, with no natural resources of her own and surrounded by Catholic enemies that would destroy her. Elizabeth I turned all that around and set the foundation stones for the UK.

The US on the other hand had boundless resources, little foreign interference for most of her history and a huge expanse of lebensraum for her large population to grow.

Elizabethan Britain lead the world in terms of freedom of speach, tolerance of ethnicity in a climate of sectarian barbarism on the continent.

The Empire died on the battlefields of WW1, when millions of British and Commonwealth men, the youth of the Empire, died. Who was going to administer and protect the Empire afterwards? WW2 was the final nail in the coffin, when Britain was virtually bankrupted by 3 years of unsupported conflict with Nazi Germany. I say unsupported - every ounce of help received from the US was paid, in full, in cash or in exchange for the shares British companies had in American business. I'm grateful that help was delivered, but it came at a cost.

As a modern Briton, I'm not really bothered either way about the demise of Empire. It was responsible for some terrible things, and also many great things. It's kind of irrelevant now, and only its legacies remain. But I find learning about the achievements of the UK very interesting. The scientific and cultural breakthroughs, the revolutions in thinking. What shines through is the British character - stoicism, tenacity and ingenuity.

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« Reply #102 on: November 13, 2002, 05:22:04 AM »
Brits have better beer.

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« Reply #103 on: November 13, 2002, 05:39:04 AM »
If those TVR's are so fast they should enter some international races like Le Mans for instance.  Vipers and Corvettes have dominated the production based classes there for about 5 years now.  They are actually competitive with some of the works prototype LMP cars.  

I don't see any TVR's or Astons doing that.  Those are more secretaries' cars or "sports cars" for the limpwristed who are looking for an upgrade from a Miata.  :)

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« Reply #104 on: November 13, 2002, 05:43:08 AM »
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Speaking not as a limey, which fighter would that be?


JSF