Author Topic: Strategy ala Bish (Read 623 times)

ZAMO · « **Reply #15 on:** November 15, 2002, 05:52:15 AM »

Surely he got...but he took 7 with him. I saw it yestarday.

I thank this lemming effect. I could imagine the same hordes but with very good pilots or very organised. Rookland woulnt exist anymore.

That lemming effect is what let rookland exist.

Salute to the comunity

Pepe · « **Reply #16 on:** November 15, 2002, 06:15:11 AM »

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Originally posted by Fatty
Pepe got killed by a rabid lemming?

You bet....and more than once!!

Especially since I'm really enjoying killing lemmings on the Take Off run, or even otr, before I start engine. It's amazing seeing how they come screaming in a 10 degrees dive, perfectly aligned with the rnwy, to meet their fate from the guns of a barely moving plane.

It's a very demanding activity (K/D wise) but also a very rewarding one...

No, getting killed don't get my nerves. I use to be a close defense type of guy, so gettin killed over and over and over is my usual bread and table. I know it's stupid (into some particular and self point of view) but If you try to take a field from Rookland, and I am defending...you will take it (and you usually do

) from my virtual cold dead fingers no matter what the vulch lemmings odds are. Not a second before.

Oh! and don't try to look for a hidden agenda on my post. There is no such.

Cheers,

Innominate · « **Reply #17 on:** November 15, 2002, 06:37:10 AM »

Overall numbers don't really matter.

Only coordinated numbers matter.

Overall numbers helps you get more people coordinated, since about the same small percentage is interested on every side.

10 coordinated players can push back 30 people just flying to the next base, easily.

fffreeze220 · « **Reply #18 on:** November 15, 2002, 06:57:29 AM »

If u say so

aztec · « **Reply #19 on:** November 15, 2002, 08:12:32 AM »

Careful robsan, your coming dangerously close to the forbidden line of maturity and common sense.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #20 on:** November 15, 2002, 08:19:13 AM »

I like to do missions, I mixed them up though, Japanese Jabos, British fiter sweeps...its too easy to take a field with a horde of Tiffy's. Hell, ya only need 10-tiffies or P51's to take a defended field.

SLO · « **Reply #21 on:** November 15, 2002, 08:26:37 AM »

damn Freeze relax.......this is gettin to personel for you.

Bish....Rook or Knight doesn't matter.

you wanna buff...grab 1 and fly.

you wanna attack...grab jabo and attack.

you wanna fight....grab dweeb plane and fight.

what the hell else you want HT to do.

Numbers not good....go to DA or CT.

even better H2H:p

the point is do something to have fun...don't wait or blame HT if your not.

cya bud

AtmkRstr · « **Reply #22 on:** November 15, 2002, 08:56:59 AM »

Now I would agree that 10 organized people can stop 30 less organized people, but it seems that whoever has a numbers advantage seems to be the one advancing. The Rooks advance just as fast as the bish when each has a numbers advantage.

Therefore, numbers are a statisticly significant causitive aspect. (sorry about the jargon)

In conclusion, however many pilots the bish have and however good rook pilots are individually, nits will always be better

straffo · « **Reply #23 on:** November 15, 2002, 09:15:07 AM »

kill fuel

Samiam · « **Reply #24 on:** November 15, 2002, 09:57:59 AM »

I dunno Pepe. Last night on Baltic map, Bish were attacking Knight fields in force. When attacking a field, a three of four plane group would break off and go on to the next nearest field and take out fuel and/or fighter hangers so that we couldn't up from that field to defend the one under massive attack.

They took six or seven field in short order doing this. You can call it gang-banging, argue against mass-jabo attacks, and claim that it can't be any fun for those involved. But you certainly can't claim that Bishops don't employ good field capture tactics.

You can argue against the ultimate goal of capturing fields and gaining a reset (many do everyday). But given that goal, you certainly can't argue that the Bish don't display a knack for it from time-to-time.

I guess the point you're really trying to make is that swarming base captures aren't any fun. To that I would say that they must be for some, because a lot of people engage in them.

Pepe · « **Reply #25 on:** November 15, 2002, 10:21:29 AM »

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Originally posted by Samiam
... When attacking a field, a three of four plane group would break off and go on to the next nearest field and take out fuel and/or fighter hangers so that we couldn't up from that field to defend the one under massive attack....

I do maintain my point. Maybe that particular nite Bish elite was working against Knights. On a regular basis, and from my experience fiting Bish, it would take an average of 10 Bishes to wipe out a small field FH's and gain air superiority over target, maybe 30+ of them to do it on a medium one... 2 waves, of course, due to the attrition suffered habitually by the first one...

The usual Bish attack lacks in the originality, skill, and forward-thinking departments and only excels in coordination and numbers....pitifully it's only first-wave coordinated. After first pass, such first wave decimated, Bish coordination seconds even Rook's and a really significant part of Bish attackers have to re-up from the last gangbanged field...

Cheers,

lazs2 · « **Reply #26 on:** November 15, 2002, 10:22:57 AM »

bish, and now rooks, send in the chinesse typhie suicide waves. Yes, as stalin points out there is quality to quanity... I don't want to duplicate that fact in a game tho. It takes a lot of the fun out.

The strat and "missuns" are to blame... perhaps it is so many new people who.. are not bored yet with "buildng battling".. they may lack skill also and feel secure in large groups even if those groups are lemmings.

Point the new guys to the stats pages... give them some personal goals... better K/D... better K/hour... hit percentage whatever. anything but "dive into building with bomb and scream lok a t me look at me on vox". or...

change something in the game to make it not viable.
lazs

Pepe · « **Reply #27 on:** November 15, 2002, 10:27:12 AM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
Bish, and now rooks, send in the chinesse typhie suicide waves. Yes, as stalin points out there is quality to quanity... I don't want to duplicate that fact in a game tho. It takes a lot of the fun out.

Lazs...don't sweat on it too much.

It's only part of our gradual Rook training program. People coming from other countries might find Rook approach to air combat too demanding for their "strat" driven minds.

Give us time, and you will have (again) a wonderful bunch of air fighters....of course don't ask us to coordinate a "missun" as you say....that only seldom happens. Nothing to worry about.

Look no further...yesterday

Cheers,

Mathman · « **Reply #28 on:** November 15, 2002, 01:06:37 PM »

All three sides are full of dweebs. All three sides do suicide typhie/38/jug/pony runs. All three sides are good. All three sides suck too. The sooner you all realize that the only difference between the three countries (aside from what chess piece represents them) is the attitude you have about those countries.

I have spent time flying for all three countries at various times in the past. I can say the following with complete sincerity:

Bish suck
Knits suck
Rooks suck

None is better than the other.

Furious · « **Reply #29 on:** November 15, 2002, 01:13:07 PM »

To frikken funny.

Actually, now that I fully consider it, its kinda sad.

I am now officially requesting that Fatty move the FDB to rooks. I want to be cool too. I want to fly with the Uber Mensch and learn their superior rook ways. I want the love and adulation they get.

bahh, screw it... as long as someone is willing to bail out, I'll be happy.

F.