Author Topic: Enhancement: AI Resupply ships (Read 190 times)

Chairboy · « **on:** November 12, 2002, 05:24:57 PM »

I would like to request consideration be given to cargo ships and/or cargo convoys for some resupply. This would add a neat strategic element to the game and would give anti-shipping flyers a more interesting range of targets.

A lone cargo vessel with one or two acks, for instance, would be neat, as would a convoy of cargo vessels guarded by one or two destroyers.

This could support the strategic element of the game and increase the number of torpedo users. It would also be a great target for PT boats.

Ecliptik · « **Reply #1 on:** November 12, 2002, 09:36:14 PM »

Great idea, although the geography of most of the maps doesn't really support naval cargo convoys. I'd like to see some new maps where naval power plays a far more important role..... if they could do something about the kamikaze hordes.

Sabre · « **Reply #2 on:** November 13, 2002, 09:55:09 AM »

Agreed. When submarines are added, this will move higher on the priority list, I suspect. HTC has already said there will need to be some kind of player-controlled ASW platform (a destroyer, most likely). But unless we have seaborne commerce, i.e. cargo ships/tankers/troopships, subs will not be worth the effort. That in turn means those non-warships will have to have some strategic purpose in the game, else no one will bother attacking or defending them after the novelty of subs wears off.

I'd also like to see fleet support ships added to CV task groups, such as an amphibious assault ship, an ammo ship, a tanker, and a troop transport. Damaging or killing them would affect ops from the fleet in the same way as destroy field objects would. Sink the ammo ship, and no A2G ord for a/c; sink the troop transport, and no troops for your LVT's. Sink the amphib assault ship? Guess what...no LVT's.

Oh yes, and a real damage model for ships, instead of the all-or-nothing scheme used now. The list goes on and on.

Airscrew · « **Reply #3 on:** November 13, 2002, 10:17:25 AM »

I would love to have a destroyer to use in the same fashion as the PT boat. It probably should only be able to spawn from ports, but take control like the cv and plot its course then come back to it later.
I'm not sure what a typical destroyer had weapons wise but I would guess at least 1 - 2 5 inch guns, a few 40mm and 20mm gun implacements, several torpedoes and depth charges.

Heck, make it a vehicle perk and give you an option like the bombers, a single destroyer or 2, 3, or 4 ship

frank3 · « **Reply #4 on:** November 13, 2002, 02:51:35 PM »

I think we need Landing Crafts which can sail to the shore, land and open its doors and than you could drive out with a tank or drop troops/supplies or anything.

Ecliptik · « **Reply #5 on:** November 13, 2002, 03:14:38 PM »

I don't think I'd want destroyer groups as an unlimited selectable vehicle, even if they were perked. It would be too weird if everyone had their own personal convoy, the seas would get crowded in a hurry. Maybe each port would only have a limited number of ships it could support, like how each port supports only one CV group now. So, if each port only supported 10 destroyers, and your country has 3 ports, you could have up to 30 destroyers at sea at any given time.

frank3 · « **Reply #6 on:** November 14, 2002, 01:28:30 PM »

I like your idea Ecliptik!

let's ask AH!

Sabre · « **Reply #7 on:** November 14, 2002, 02:43:42 PM »

Works for me:D.

flakbait · « **Reply #8 on:** November 14, 2002, 03:05:14 PM »

Cargo barges are already in AH, and the terrain editor (I think), but no one's used them on a map yet. You can check and see in the Object Settings under Setup. Right there at the top is a listing named "Barge".

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Scott E · « **Reply #9 on:** November 14, 2002, 06:01:49 PM »

midway has supply ships

ccvi · « **Reply #10 on:** November 15, 2002, 11:21:48 AM »

Supply Ships like supply trucks and supply trains?

I think I saw some on mindanao (the map with the big island, where the country in the west can't be reset - not sure about it's name). a12 has some ships bringing in supplies (west side field south of HQ) I think.

Airscrew · « **Reply #11 on:** November 15, 2002, 12:16:04 PM »

I think that is one of those submarine trains out there by 12

Airscrew · « **Reply #12 on:** November 15, 2002, 12:20:48 PM »

I agree Ecliptik, thats one of the things I thought of after I made my post but I figured someone would pick up on that.

If it was unlimited you'd probably end up with 150 destroyers roaming around, or people would be parking them off shore of the fields using them for ack screens.

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