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Dago · « **Reply #15 on:** November 15, 2002, 11:36:33 AM »

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they just hit like they fell of a 20 ft roof

Pretty much exactly as it is done today. They hit at about the same velocity of a 20 ft free drop.

Military for standard Paratroop drop still uses a round main, only slightly steerable, and without the ability to flair it like a parabolic sport chute.

Some military units, like the HALO jumpers use a newer chute, but for mass troop jumps, its the old canopy. They continue to do this for a few reasons. They do most jumps at night, don't want them flying away from the drop zone, dont want them slamming into each other, want the troop to get down fast to minimize time hanging under canopy and getting shot at. Injuries are unfortunately not uncommon, but I guess overall the minds in charge have thought the risks of round drop fasts are less than the risks in steerable soft landing chutes in a combat situation.

I have heard they the military is looking in the not to distant future to changing towards the new chutes. There would be some advantages as long as the training is done right, and I suspect it will be.

dago

gatso · « **Reply #16 on:** November 15, 2002, 11:59:56 AM »

I did my first static line on my 18th birthday. I remember sitting hanging out the side of the aircraft thinking 'this is totally stupid' and then I think my brain overloaded because the next thing I remember is floating down in the silk.

I'd love to get back into it. It's been a while since my last one but a combination of other projects, lack of time, weather and how much it costs has put me off.

BTW LePaul, It's a good job the seats in that Vampire were u/s. You'd have ended up as a red smear. The canopy in 2 seat Vampires has to be jettisoned before attempting ejection. Lucky eh?

The one i'm involved with is a way off from flying yet.

Gatso

Creamo · « **Reply #17 on:** November 15, 2002, 12:06:03 PM »

As crazy as it sounds Dago, that makes sense, actually. ty

CMC Airboss · « **Reply #18 on:** November 15, 2002, 01:20:17 PM »

Done a few jumps here, but it proved too expensive - Had to choose between flying and jumping. Flying won, hands down but those few jumps were a kick.

MiG

edit: thats not me, I took the photo.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #19 on:** November 15, 2002, 01:30:35 PM »

Damn Mig, from that angle it almost looks like a HALO jump

Did you jump locally? I jumped out at Kapowsin, saw my old jumpmaster at the Boeing Business Jet open house at Boeing field earlier this year.

Hawklore · « **Reply #20 on:** November 15, 2002, 03:13:56 PM »

One guy, on April 5 1988 around 10:00pm (While I was still in mommy tummy about to pop out in the morning) on tv there was a guy who was testing a new helmet cam,

well he jumped out and filmed the other jumpers and as he reached the altitude to pull his chute the silver puller was gone,

he didnt wear his chute, poor guy...My dad told me that someone was asking if anyone else had heard of it and he said., "I could tell you the date the time and where!"

Remember to wear your chute..

funkedup · « **Reply #21 on:** November 15, 2002, 04:25:57 PM »

Two words

Natural

Selection

Wlfgng · « **Reply #22 on:** November 15, 2002, 04:28:15 PM »

no doubt.. let it happen!

WpnX · « **Reply #23 on:** November 15, 2002, 05:26:04 PM »

Creamo,
The military chutes today still drop almost just as fast. The chute currently used by the 82nd Airborne division, the T10-C drops at 18-22 feet per second and it isn't pleasant when you slam into the ground. The Special Forces guys/Green Berets (I hear those guys are pretty cool) use an MC1-1C (unless on a HALO team) which is steerable and has a little softer landing. Large units such as the 82nd cannot use steerables as there would be a lot of mid-air entanglements with that many paratroopers in the air at the same time.

senna · « **Reply #24 on:** November 15, 2002, 08:19:14 PM »

Climbs onto roof of home, jumps off counts one onethousand two. POW! Uh thats not so bad.

Kieran · « **Reply #25 on:** November 15, 2002, 08:28:06 PM »

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Originally posted by senna
Climbs onto roof of home, jumps off counts one onethousand two. POW! Uh thats not so bad.

Now put on a 40lbs backpack and jump off your roof.

senna · « **Reply #26 on:** November 15, 2002, 08:31:35 PM »

lol, I was being sarcastic. You goto be CRAZY to jump out of a plane.

Ossie · « **Reply #27 on:** November 15, 2002, 11:30:33 PM »

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You don't feel like your falling at all, it actually feels like your flying, riding this big pillow of air.

I made my first and as yet only jump (tandem) about two years ago. I had heard about the sensation you get when you freefall, but to me it just seemed really windy. I forked out an extra $30 to get a personal videographer. That was cool except for the guy kept wanting me to smile and give thumbs up and crap. I just wanted to enjoy the view. I'd go again, but yeah it's like $100 a pop. One of my friends that I went with said he got more of a rush from bungee jumping.

SaburoS · « **Reply #28 on:** November 15, 2002, 11:36:24 PM »

Main difference from WWII and after WWII is they discovered that dropping your pack and weapons and letting them hang off a tether line to hit the ground first would result in fewer injuries than dropping with everything attached to the jumper. As the extra weight of weapon and pack hit the ground, the jumper's drop velocity slowed down causing far fewer injuries.

milnko · « **Reply #29 on:** November 16, 2002, 07:06:46 AM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Thats because you didn't hit terminal veloscity. It takes about 10-12 seconds to hit TV.

Shows ya how much I know about the subject, I thought Terminal Velocity was the speed at which ya hit the ground when your chute didn't open.