« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Down

Author Topic: Jr. 2  (Read 676 times)

Offline easymo

  • Parolee
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1640
Jr. 2
« on: November 18, 2002, 12:05:19 AM »
After reading yet another post about Bush Jr. being a deserter.  I decided to find out what REALLY happened. These accusations sound ludicrous, since there was a war on at the time.  After spending a few hours of searching, and reading the same thing over and over. It became clear; Jr. didn't show up at his duty station. He went off, and went to work for his daddy. As near as I can figure, his daddy had the power to "authorize" an early out.

  In the process of wading through this stuff, I saw many negative comments about Guardsmen. IMO this is bull.  Guardsmen have been giving their lives for this country since before it WAS a country.  Jr., on the other hand, has done nothing (again IMO) to earn the right to call himself a Guardsman. He is a deserter.

  If you can find anything to counter this statement.  Please post it.  I would be happy to read it.
Logged

Offline weazel

  • Parolee
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1471
Better watch out...
« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2002, 12:53:49 AM »
Cabby will do a drive by " liberal-leftist" attack on you any minute.
Logged

Offline john9001

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 9453
Jr. 2
« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2002, 01:09:26 AM »
algore was released from his "reporter" duty in viet nam early to work on his daddys relection campaine, his daddy lost
Logged

Offline easymo

  • Parolee
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1640
Jr. 2
« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2002, 01:14:58 AM »
I dont much care what Al's doing.  He is not in the Commander and Chief's chair.
Logged

Offline Nash

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 11705
      • http://sbm.boomzoom.org/
Jr. 2
« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2002, 01:30:50 AM »
Easymo,

You along with a whole ton of other vets want to know the same thing. Vets from WWII and on.... and they've put together thousands of dollars into a reward for anyone who can prove he didn't desert.

It's still unclaimed.

Toad will be along any second to make apologies and 1/2 excuses and attempt to slide the blame onto a completely unrelated topic while chattering on about archaic filing systems back then or something.... :) .... but the facts is the facts:

The President of the United States is a deserter.
« Last Edit: November 18, 2002, 01:40:07 AM by Nash »
Logged

Offline easymo

  • Parolee
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1640
Jr. 2
« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2002, 01:37:18 AM »
That may be hard for him to do.  The records are in Denver.
Logged

Offline davidpt40

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1053
Jr. 2
« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2002, 02:17:38 AM »
How is he a deserter?  He served in the Air National Guard.  Lets also look at the end results-  If Bush had gone to Vietnam and flew attack missions, it would have been all for nothing since the U.S. lost the war.
Logged

Offline easymo

  • Parolee
  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1640
Jr. 2
« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2002, 02:32:53 AM »
If you dont report to your commanding officer, when ordered too. You are AWOL.  If you never report again. You are a deserter.
Logged

Offline whgates3

  • Silver Member
  • ****
  • Posts: 1426
Jr. 2
« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2002, 02:58:23 AM »
Quote
Originally posted by davidpt40
How is he a deserter?  He served in the Air National Guard.  Lets also look at the end results-  If Bush had gone to Vietnam and flew attack missions, it would have been all for nothing since the U.S. lost the war.


...but if he had accidentally killed quayle on manuvers the GOP might have won back the white house in '96
Logged

Offline Tumor

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4272
      • Wait For It
Jr. 2
« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2002, 03:59:36 AM »
My brother-in-law quit the National Guard 20years ago.  Yep, just quit.... they discharged him (General from what I understand).  I've heard other stories too... it's not that unusual.  My guess is something similar happened with Bush, or family pull ensured he recieved a discharge which "if" he has... I doubt anything will come of it.

....but it is fun watching the Bush hater's try so hard. :D
Logged
"Dogfighting is useless"  :Erich Hartmann

Offline Holden McGroin

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 8591
Jr. 2
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2002, 04:11:08 AM »
Conjecture, and hazy recollections,..or not..


no evidence = guilty     :confused:
Logged
Holden McGroin LLC makes every effort to provide accurate and complete information. Since humor, irony, and keen insight may be foreign to some readers, no warranty, expressed or implied is offered. Re-writing this disclaimer cost me big bucks at the lawyer’s office!

Offline wulfie

  • Nickel Member
  • ***
  • Posts: 792
      • http://www.twinkies.com/index.asp
Jr. 2
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2002, 04:29:42 AM »
I'd like to see some ANG pilots from the era comment on it. The ANG is alot different than the 'active reserves', from what I have seen and heard.

Also, in a minor but telling show of character, we never saw George Jr. state the obvious to Al or anyone else: "I was a jet fighter pilot, and you were a 'photographer' - no freakin' comparison."

I'm sorry, but from what I have seen/heard/know *nobody* winds up flying jet fighters in the U.S.A.F. without some serious balls and some serious motivation.

Mike/wulfie
Logged

Offline Kieran

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4119
Jr. 2
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2002, 06:56:13 AM »
Easymo,

From what I understand it wasn't legally desertion, though from a moral perspective it certainly could be considered so.
Logged

Offline Eagler

  • Plutonium Member
  • *******
  • Posts: 18204
Jr. 2
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2002, 07:06:50 AM »
better than the last one (ran to Russia to protest war)

not as good as JFK (saved crew after having PT run over by jap destroyer) <- ever stop and think how an agile pt boat could be rammed by a relatively slow arse destoyer?

not as good as Bush Sr (pilot ww2)

sounds like the ANG is just a few steps up from a HS ROTC. Easy out for those with the power & $$'s to do so. Makes you wonder why slick didn't even take that route, he'd rather protest the gov the ppl would elect him to "lead" for 8 years...

easymo
ppl don't care anymore - they can't remember yesterday
Logged
"Masters of the Air" Scenario - JG27


Intel Core i7-13700KF | GIGABYTE Z790 AORUS Elite AX | 64GB G.Skill DDR5 | 16GB GIGABYTE RTX 4070 Ti Super | 850 watt ps | pimax Crystal Light | Warthog stick | TM1600 throttle | VKB Mk.V Rudder

Offline Kieran

  • Platinum Member
  • ******
  • Posts: 4119
Jr. 2
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2002, 07:19:29 AM »
"Slick" didn't have the power or connections to pull it off.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2 3   Go Up
« previous next »