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Offline Thrawn

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« on: November 18, 2002, 11:31:02 AM »
"Stem cell may repair hearts
 
By Richard Black
BBC science correspondent  
 
 
New research announced at the world's biggest meeting of heart doctors suggests it will soon be possible to use the body's own stem cells to repair the damage caused by heart attacks.
Doctors speaking at the annual meeting of the American Heart Association in Chicago, US, said they had used stem cells from bone marrow in a number of patients, with encouraging results. "

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2487033.stm

Looks like this will be a field of science that will reap rich rewards.  
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Offline midnight Target

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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2002, 11:32:32 AM »
Too bad Dubya sold out to the religious right wackos on this one.
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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2002, 11:48:10 AM »
Send your girl on over Oed, we'll whip up some fine stems.
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Offline Thrawn

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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2002, 11:53:53 AM »
It's strange, because bio-chemists are finding ways to create stem cells out of skin cells.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2002, 11:57:37 AM »
Oh my, wait till Hortlund and Anne Graham will read MT's post:

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2002, 12:16:30 PM »
MT,

What Bush did about stem-cell research has nothing to do with the topic of this post.  The stem cell research mentioned above refers to the use of cells taken from the body's own bone-marrow, an approach that is morally preferable to the taking of stem-cells from fetal tissue.

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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2002, 12:34:00 PM »
You can get stem cells from the umbilical cord.  

Stem cell research is going to go on,  in time, over GW objections and those that would hold medicine hostage to "moral" issues.
Ever notice,  those that oppose the research don't have a pressing medical issue that would benefit from the research....


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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2002, 02:04:38 PM »
The lack of a moral compass is very convenient when justifying research that is largely self-serving.  The existence of human suffering does not justify the use of tissue from unborn human beings for research.  If stem cells can be extracted from one's own bone-marrow then fetal stem cell research is unnecessary.

My life is precious to me, but not so precious that I would seek its extension through such means.

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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2002, 02:37:51 PM »
Shuckins, if I'm not mistaken... they use already aborted fetus' for their research...

I see no moral objections to operating on a cadaver... but fetus are so much more..... yeah...
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2002, 02:55:25 PM »
People donate blood and other tissues to research, what's wrong with fetus?
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« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2002, 02:57:05 PM »
Do stem cellys go bling bling too?
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« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2002, 03:01:34 PM »
Thrawn,

Whatever else is said in rebuttal, I think we can all agree that a fetus is not quite the same as a piece of skin tissue or bone marrow.  The fetus develops into a human being, given the opportunity.  The same cannot be said for the other types of tissue.  If they can extract stem-cells from my own bone marrow and use it to cure a disease I have no objections.  But human life is sacred, whether we believe in God or not.  By the time most women know they are pregnant, the fetus has a beating heart and a brain wave.  It is repugnant to me to have something like that killed and then use it's tissue for research, no matter what the reason.

Regards, Shuckins
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2002, 03:04:34 PM »
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Thrawn,

Whatever else is said in rebuttal, I think we can all agree that a fetus is not quite the same as a piece of skin tissue or bone marrow.  The fetus develops into a human being, given the opportunity.  


I think a fetus CAN develope into a human being.  But then so can a sperm or an egg.
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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2002, 03:07:19 PM »
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People donate blood and other tissues to research, what's wrong with fetus?


I think some of you would be better served with mushroom stem cells ....
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2002, 03:56:44 PM »
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People donate blood and other tissues to research, what's wrong with fetus?


Do you think we should let people donate other peoples "blood and other tissues"?
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