Author Topic: Other Flight Sims? Compared to AH? (Read 687 times)

Fariz · « **Reply #15 on:** November 20, 2002, 11:46:24 AM »

I can't agree that guns are too strong in AH. In everything I read about ww2 airwar, it is very close to reality. I can give you proves if you want.

mcswine · « **Reply #16 on:** November 20, 2002, 05:21:47 PM »

IMHO AH is the most fun in comparison to. AH has best FM, view system and community.
CONs: Graphics need update includign artwork, DM is not bad but need work.

Warbirds 3 or 2.77
PRO's: Has better graphics then AH, S3's
CONS: Almsot to many to say but I'll try. 1. Community in genral sucks, 2. Wild Bill, 3. FM, 4. DM, 5. Lack of development, 6. average population in the main arena is 25-30, 7. squeak,squeak,squeak..this is porked, this plane is "uber" etc.., 8. Connection is unrealiable, 9. each tiem you log on you wonder if its still gonan be there or not.

WWIIOL:
Pro's: Good community, great ideas
Cons': Limited AC, poor connection and frame rate.

IL2:
Pro: Looks great
CON: Is mainly eye candy, limited numbers

Have'nt tried CFS or any of the others so have no comment on them.

Rotorian · « **Reply #17 on:** November 20, 2002, 06:45:39 PM »

I wish Microprose (Hasbro, or whoever owns them now) would release an updated version of EAW. For offline play, that rocked.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #18 on:** November 20, 2002, 07:08:35 PM »

There is no comparison. For what AH intends to do, it does, and it does it well.

However, Il2 will compliment AH very nicely. It's like Steak and putaters... they just go hand in hand.

Aztec- Offline Campaign play sucks. There ARE numerous end-user made campaigns that are neat, and interesting for some of the newer planes (109E series, I16, new Yaks and MiGs)... and there's a way to generate a random campaign using a 3rd party utility.

The problem with the above is that no matter what, it's a strictly canned campaign. This is the biggest downfall, and the thing that pissed me off the most about Il2. It's a boxed game with only a handful of single missions that are only for a FEW of the planes in the game...

I would suggest, if you can wait until Feb/March 2003, to buy Forgotten Battles when it comes out. It will include all of Il2's planes, plus some of them will have revised 3D models, revised flight model with engine degredation as the altitude increases modelled, many NEW planes, and the biggest/bestest thing: A dynamic campaign system that will not have generated the next mission until you complete the current one. Things that are destroyed/done in the previous mission effect the next mission that will be generated. (More plane types destroyed, less of those types of planes in your area. Objects stay destroyed until they are rebuilt. Wingmen with names and "profiles"<-- # of kills, sorties and medals.. and a few other things that I can't remember).

All in all, Il2 is nice... but if you can wait ~4 months, I would suggest you do so and pick up FB.
-SW

aztec · « **Reply #19 on:** November 21, 2002, 05:00:41 AM »

Thx Phaetn and SWulfe, will take your advice and wait for the release of Forgotten Battles. !

wipass · « **Reply #20 on:** November 21, 2002, 10:06:42 AM »

mcswine wrote

"Warbirds 3 or 2.77

PRO's: Has better graphics then AH, S3's
CONS: Almsot to many to say but I'll try. 1. Community in genral sucks, 2. Wild Bill, 3. FM, 4. DM, 5. Lack of development, 6. average population in the main arena is 25-30, 7. squeak,squeak,squeak..this is porked, this plane is "uber" etc.., 8. Connection is unrealiable, 9. each tiem you log on you wonder if its still gonan be there or not"

in reply

Pros, WB 3 has better graphics, but not WB 2.77 IMHO

Cons, I would say that on the whole the WB community is it's strongest draw and as regards squeak squeak etc, this is a sign IMO of a mature community, sure we/they squeak, but only in an attempt to increase realism as they see it. The connections are I would venture on a par with AH and as for numbers, last night I counted 95 in all arenas, admittedly AH had around 130 at the same time. but quite a few all the same.

Damage Model ? In both "games" bits fly off all over the place, not sure we could quantify which is better or more accurate.

Finally FM, as none of us flew a piston engined a/c in the war (I assume) then who is to say what is correct and what is incorrect, I think the question should be , "which one feels better or more accurately to what we would imagine it should be" ? Having flown in both sims last night for at least 2 hours in each, the EMC in WB3 and the MA in AH, I could only tell you which one I prefer, not which one is correct.

No flames intended at all, and yes it is nice to have a post not descend in to flames revvin.

wipass

Bcnu · « **Reply #21 on:** November 21, 2002, 10:37:53 AM »

Got pinged into this thread from afar, so blame your fellow pilots if you mind me visiting from WB

I recently took the time to enjoy a trial of AH. I found much to like, and little to dislike.

Excepting the head movements and roll inertia, there isn't much difference between WB and AH flight models. Yes, some, but this is supposed to be a short post, and the differences are small next to the similarities.

If you are enjoying AH, I don't think there's another MMO flight sim that would draw you away yet. WB is the same but different, just as AH appears to WBers (excepting occasional flamewars on BBSs).

If you want a #2 sim, try Grand Prix Legends, although you don't get 20mm Hispanos

Turbot · « **Reply #22 on:** November 21, 2002, 10:52:16 AM »

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Originally posted by mcswine
Warbirds 3 or 2.77
PRO's: Has better graphics then AH, S3's

Just a clarification. I keep hearing about S3's in warbirds like this is a unique feature. I get the idea a lot of people don't know that AH has this too - it is called TOD. (Events were you have to be in a squad to play).

Bcnu · « **Reply #23 on:** November 21, 2002, 10:55:12 AM »

Clarification on AH's TODs (not a flame!): A month or two ago I was looking at the TOD page, and it appeared people were allowed multiple lives from the log reports. Is this the case, or not?

Turbot · « **Reply #24 on:** November 21, 2002, 11:03:42 AM »

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Originally posted by Bcnu
Clarification on AH's TODs (not a flame!): A month or two ago I was looking at the TOD page, and it appeared people were allowed multiple lives from the log reports. Is this the case, or not?

Not , unless disco.

Don't confuse with CAP event (another completely different event series- which does)

Traditional Events - schedule varies
Snapshots - Single run events Wednesday and Fridays
CAP Events - schedule varies
TOD (American Time Zone) - Fridays
TOD (European Time Slot) - Sundays

There are other single run events. Too many to list - and I wouldn't remeber them all anyway.

funkedup · « **Reply #25 on:** November 21, 2002, 11:13:15 AM »

Il-2 is a really cool boxed sim. I much prefer MMOL sims to that genre, but in the boxed sim genre, Il-2 is the king IMHO.

funkedup · « **Reply #26 on:** November 21, 2002, 11:15:00 AM »

I think in TOD there is still a rule that you can respawn multiple times in the first 5 or 10 minutes, due to some of the setup problems that were occuring earlier this year. People were getting killed due to a bug.

Turbot · « **Reply #27 on:** November 21, 2002, 11:17:50 AM »

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Originally posted by funkedup
Il-2 is a really cool boxed sim. I much prefer MMOL sims to that genre, but in the boxed sim genre, Il-2 is the king IMHO.

There is a downloadable IL2 if you want to try before you buy.

milnko · « **Reply #28 on:** November 21, 2002, 11:19:53 AM »

Hey FUNKEDUP,

Ya still "in the know" on TK?

If so, what's the sitrep?

Beav · « **Reply #29 on:** November 21, 2002, 11:45:39 AM »

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Originally posted by Rotorian
I wish Microprose (Hasbro, or whoever owns them now) would release an updated version of EAW. For offline play, that rocked.

Check SimHQ.com for some fanfreakingtastic stuff for EAW