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What the hell happened to NAFTA?
« Reply #60 on: November 27, 2002, 05:03:52 AM »
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i fail to see the tie between labour unions & communism - unions try to get the best price for their product, no? that out&out greed


I think maybe that this may havesomething to do with the alleged / perceived connection.

It will be asked, "Why, then, do the workers strike in such cases, when the uselessness of such measures is so evident?" Simply because they must protest against every reduction, even if dictated by necessity; because they feel bound to proclaim that they, as human beings, shall not be made to bow to social circumstances, but social conditions ought to yield to them as human beings; because silence on their part would be a recognition of these social conditions, an admission of the right of the bourgeoisie to exploit the workers in good times and let them starve in bad ones. Against this the working-men must rebel so long as they have not lost all human feeling, and that they protest in this way and no other, comes of their 'being practical English people, who express themselves in action, and do not, like German theorists, go to sleep as soon as their protest is properly registered and placed ad acta, there to sleep as quietly as the protesters themselves. The active resistance of the English working-men has its effect in holding the money-greed of the bourgeoisie within certain limits, and keeping alive the opposition of the workers to the social and political omnipotence of the bourgeoisie, while it compels the admission that something more is needed than Trades Unions and strikes to break the power of the ruling class.  ---Fredrick Engels (Karl's Buddy)
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« Reply #61 on: November 27, 2002, 07:06:21 AM »
Times have changed, our kids are getting worse..
They won't obey their parents, they just want to fart and curse!
Should we blame the Government? Or Blame Society?
Or should we blame the images on TV?

No, Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
With all their beady little eyes, their flapping head so full of lies!
Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
We need to form a full assault, It's Canada's Fault!

Don't blame me, for my son Stan..
He saw the darn cartoon, and now he's off to join the clan!
And my boy Eric once had my picture on his shelf..
But now when he sees me, he tells me to fxxx myself!

Well? Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
It seems that everything's gone wrong since Canada came along..
Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
They're not even a real country anyway.

My son could've been a doctor or a lawyer, rich and true..
Instead he burned up like a piggy on a Barbecue.
Should we blame the matches? Should we blame the fire?
Or the Doctors who allowed him to expire?

Heck no, Blame Canada! Blame Canada!
With their hockey hullabaloo, and that squeak Anne Murray, too!
Blame Canada! Shame on Canada..
The smut we must stop.. the trash we must smash..
The laugher and fun.. must all be undone..
We must blame them.. and cause a fuss..
before somebody thinks of blaming us!



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Re: Re: What the hell happened to NAFTA?
« Reply #62 on: November 27, 2002, 07:18:25 AM »
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I bet the US worker loses out to Mexico and Canada much more over the next decade.



More U.S. jobs are going overseas than are going north and south of the border.


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What the hell happened to NAFTA?
« Reply #63 on: November 27, 2002, 10:03:40 AM »
KrotKi no insult intended bud...big of ya to apologize


no matter what any politician says.....we have and always will defend ours and yours.

we are not many.....but we do what we can.

Canada is big in its space but small in it populice, only 30 million so of course where not gonna have a big military.

we just don't piss off many countries:D

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What the hell happened to NAFTA?
« Reply #64 on: November 27, 2002, 01:28:35 PM »
loser,

How can our farmers be going bankrupt when they are subsidized so heavyily?

SBO said that they US government has a hard on for the American farmer.  What a niave statement.  This isn't an issue of the independant US farmer versus the independant Canadian farmer.

This is a case of large mulitnationals (such as Cargill, ConAgra and IBP), which are already destroying the way of life for the independant farmer in the US, versus the CWB.  The CWB provides some protection for the independant farmer in Canada.  If these multinationals lobbiest can get the US to declare the CWB to be against NAFTA, which the US has previously found it not to be, then they can move further into Canada and buy out our independant farmers.

Milo, if you can correct any of my thoughts on this I would appreciate it.

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What the hell happened to NAFTA?
« Reply #65 on: November 27, 2002, 01:31:45 PM »
H.McG - yes, its very easy of a commie to observe facts about society and read into it things which are convenient for communists.  as an anarchist i could say 'parking lots are anarchy: no rules, no signs, no cops.  & everyone parks there, so everyone must love anarchy' it just as true as engels & a lot less pompus sounding too.  the truth remains - a good labour union will get the most possible $$$ for it's work.  the principles of commieism would have them getting only as much as they need