Author Topic: Need some help getting my Cougar profile tuned up for AH. (Read 511 times)

Reschke · « **on:** November 22, 2002, 12:25:29 AM »

I finally cobbled one together for ease of use and have a few troubles.

First of all the flight controls are setup for very simplified usage but I am having trouble with the views and weapons setup. When I pull the trigger I only get a quick burst and the views act like they want to go to the area but never really get there. Also my trim functions don't seem to work either.

Like I said it is cobbled together and was a hasty work in progress and is very simple. I will upload it here if any of you guys would like to help. I would also like to know how you have your throttle setup with your Cougar and if you are able to use the detents for the start up sequence and WEP entry or not.

Thanks.

214thCavalier · « **Reply #1 on:** November 22, 2002, 04:58:22 AM »

Well try this it was originally Revvins files but i altered them to suit me.

aceshigh.zip

No graphics page i cant be asked to make the alterations needed from the original.

Note i moved the views to Hat 2, reason being its a stretch to comfortably access Hat 1 as many times as i need to use it.
Hat 1 was causing pain at the base of my thumb which is now reducing using Hat 2.

As for the throttle detents i removed the damn noisy things !
Throttle is just that 100% throttle and wep is toggled on and off by the Spd brake button.

Reschke · « **Reply #2 on:** November 22, 2002, 06:50:41 AM »

Thanks Cav. I will give them a try since I liked Revvins original profile but it got to a point where it would not work right with the later 1.10 version of AH. I think alot of that was due to where and how my Cougar was connected so I may have solved that problem. I don't mind having my views on Hat 1 since I have some pretty large hands and can reach the hat.

214thCavalier · « **Reply #3 on:** November 22, 2002, 12:39:03 PM »

LOL i have big hands in fact mole grip has been mentioned in the same sentence before, but i hammered that Hat1 button so much its now broken not to mention the pain it caused.
As you probably realise its easy to change the hats back anyway if required.

GunnerCAF · « **Reply #4 on:** November 22, 2002, 04:09:17 PM »

Your welcome to use anything from my files that can be downloaded here:

Gunners Cougar Page

I have tried to put in a lot of remarks in the program and text.

I have had the WEP activated when the throttle went to full and actived with a button. I prefer to have it on a button. I tend to forget to turn it off, or not realize it is on when it is activated on the throttle.

Gunner

Revvin · « **Reply #5 on:** November 22, 2002, 04:20:05 PM »

Odd that my original profile no longer works for you it still works for me fine (will make sure the most up to date ver is on my web-site)

You were almost there with the profile but forgot to add the /H slash modifier to simulate the buttons on the stick being keys being held down on the keyboard. I hope you don't mind I took the liberty of taking your profile and adding these for you. I also added the /H modifier to your comms keys and primary and secondary weapon keys.

If you need any help don't hesitate to contact me at revvin@ntlworld.com and I will try to help.

Revvin · « **Reply #6 on:** November 22, 2002, 04:21:22 PM »

Forgot to put those /H commands for your trims too you might want to add those.

Revvin · « **Reply #7 on:** November 22, 2002, 06:45:27 PM »

I've just uploaded fresh copies of my profile to my webspace, a 503kb version with full graphical overlay and one with just the joystick files and a readme file.

Profile with graphical overlay - 503Kb

Profile without graphical overlay - 5kb

Reschke · « **Reply #8 on:** November 22, 2002, 09:06:34 PM »

Thanks Revvin. I knew I was missing something and it was taken from ideas I had from taking long looks at yours and Gunner's Cougar profiles. I don't know what the deal was/is with your original profile but it refuses to work right in my Cougar. I have not had a chance to try your updated one but I will do so ASAP.

Gunner thanks for the offer and as I said above you and Revvin provided some insight and ideas that I used to build a really simple profile. If only I had thought it out completely. The little things kept it out for a while and I finally got tired of dealing with it and came for help.

Thanks guys!

JimBear · « **Reply #9 on:** November 23, 2002, 05:22:34 PM »

I too could use a little help.

Went back and created a new profile for AH and managed to get everything I wanted to work EXCEPT using the mouse stick for pan viewing. I noticed in Revvins profile that a statement:

BTN T1 /T /P View_Mode_Pan /R KD (MOUSE_RB)

Able to find and sorta understand everything except the KD , How do you set that up and what does the keyboard up/keyboard down thingy mean?

TIA

214thCavalier · « **Reply #10 on:** November 23, 2002, 07:17:02 PM »

JimBear i believe if you add this section to your profile you will get a working mouse stick pan view but only when you hold the T1 mouse stick button in, works best this way as stops inadvertant view changes.
Or just try my profile and see if it works how you want before altering anything.

MIX 5 3 (0 25 75 100) (/H X7) ^ (/H X8)
MIY 5 3 (0 25 75 100) (/H X5) ^ (/H X6)
BTN T1 F8
DEF X9 (X5 AND T1)
DEF X10 (X6 AND T1)
DEF X11 (X7 AND T1)
DEF X12 (X8 AND T1)
BTN X9 /H KP8
BTN X10 /H KP2
BTN X11 /H KP4
BTN X12 /H KP6

So many different ways of programming the cougar to get the same end result

Revvin · « **Reply #11 on:** November 23, 2002, 07:19:00 PM »

Damn how did that sneak back in there I thought I took it out a while ago

214thCavalier · « **Reply #12 on:** November 23, 2002, 07:52:37 PM »

Checked your profile out Revvin but all that mouse view does for me is track the mouse cursor around the screen.
Makes no difference if i clicked or held the T1 mouse button.
2am so perhaps its me off to sleep.

Revvin · « **Reply #13 on:** November 24, 2002, 05:49:25 AM »

Yeah that's only part of the line that somehow got left in there after the last edit and you have to set the mouse to be your method of pan viewing for it to work. I took it out because at the time I liked the idea of a pan mode on the mouse but never found it as good or quick as the normal snap views from the top hat.

Revvin · « **Reply #14 on:** November 24, 2002, 07:30:38 AM »

OK I put the lines back in to make it work, I don't use it myself but figure some of you might prefer it. To get it workign you need to go into AH's controller setup and set the view panning to the X and Y axis of your mouse. Load up the profile and then press the mousestick down (button T1) to enable mouse panning then use the mousestick to pan around, the command is mapped so that you do not need to hold down button T1 it is toggled. To go back to snap views simply press button T1 again.

Jimbear> The command line is as follows:

BTN T1 /T /P View_Mode_Pan [colur=red]/R[/color] KD (MOUSE_RB)
/T /P Default_View /R KU (MOUSE_RB)

/T is the 'toggle' command which allows toggling between mouse view and snap view the /P is the 'press' statement for this command so that when button T1 is pressed down it toggles the mousview. Because AH normally requires the right mouse button to be held down in conjunction with the mouse movement the KD ('key down' command) command holds down the right mouse button until button T1 is pressed again. The second line of the command switches back to snap view and the 'KU' (key up command) command simulates you releasing the right mouse button as you finish using the mouseview. I used the key up and key down commands to save me the hassle of mapping the right mouse button to T1 and having to holdit down whilst panning the view. With this method it means I can free up button T1 to switch between the two view types (mouse and snap view) and still not have to hold down the right mouse button. You also need this command at the top of your profile to make it work:

USE MTYPE A5

Don't know if I've explained that clearly enough, hope it helps.