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Offline StSanta

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« on: November 22, 2002, 06:12:45 AM »
Erakat says:

"We cannot accept the official Israeli accusations against the Palestinian Authority and Arafat," Erakat said.

"We reiterate that the only way to stop this vicious cycle is through resumption of a meaningful peace process that would lead to the end of Israeli occupation."

Similar to what's been said after previous terrorist attacks (and I am para-phrasing)

"We do not condone the killing of innocents, be it israelis or the women and children assasinated by the Israeli military. It can only end by peaceful negotiation and the removal of all israeli troops and settlements from Palestinian territory"

I'd be the first to say that Sharon is a bastard stunninghunk. But.

I read the statements above as "this will continue, with our implicit blessing, until you get the hell outta our land".

To narrow down what I wish to discuss, let's not discuss the legitimacy of the Palestinian claim or whether the Israelis are in violation of international law. Let's also stay away from the issue of right to defend the sovreignety and people of [insert either Palestine and Palestinian people or Israel/Israeli people here]".

My question: do you not read this as an implicit or even direct support for the terrorists attacks? And, if so, would anything short of a total withdrawal satisfy the PLO? Hamas and the other organisations will not be satisfied since they want the destruction of israel, but let's focus on the PLO (if possible).

Lemme hear yer opinions.
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« Reply #1 on: November 22, 2002, 06:49:26 AM »
or it could be realistic assumption in the matter - people will blow themselves to kill israelis, until Israel isn't deemed a threat to palestinians.
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« Reply #2 on: November 22, 2002, 07:40:59 AM »
Israel is occupier, just like Iraq, Nazi-germany, Russia and several other countries were before.
I can't see anything wrong killing invading forces, wether they exists in military (IDF) or civilian form (settlers in occupied areas).
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« Reply #3 on: November 22, 2002, 07:46:53 AM »
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Finland 2 = support killing children on buses, schools, women at markets, teenagers at dance halls

after all Israel is just like Nazi Germany :rolleyes:

StSanta
Of course they are condoning the terrorism. They always have.
Nope, the Pals wil not be happy until the Jews are dead

I think our Fin friends are alittle confusion as to which side they should compare the Nazis to....
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« Reply #4 on: November 22, 2002, 07:58:14 AM »
Fin's have a long history of ostracizing certain ethnic groups of people, Eagler. In Norway there were around 10,000 children born of parents who were members of Vidkum Quisling's pro-Nazi party, and of love affairs between Norwegian girls and German soldiers. After the war, these children were rejected as so-called 'German kids', maltreated and despised, treated with contempt, in fact refugees in their own country. Considered social misfits, few have received a proper education. To relieve Norway of this embarrassing problem Sweden adopted a few hundred of these children and around 250 were sent to homes in Germany. In 1986, 'The League of Norwegian War Children Lebensborn' was established. Through its efforts, many of these children have found their unknown fathers. Now, 50 years later, these war children only wish 'integration and acceptance with following freedom from anguish'. Today, the League maintains contact with around two hundred former NS children.
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« Reply #5 on: November 22, 2002, 08:18:16 AM »
The Palestinian claim to the land around the Jordan River is no stronger than that of the Israelis.

Most of the so-called Palestinians are descended from groups that migrated into the region at the end of Turkish rule and during the time of the British Mandate.  They are Turks and Syrians and Egyptians and several other ethnic groups.  Native Jews and Arabs whose ancestors had been living peacefully beside each other for centuries have played little part in the violence that has surrounded the history of Israel since its birth in 1948.

Much of the violence had its beginning with the Grand Mufti of Jerusalem.  For those of you not familiar with him, he was the leader of the Muslims of Jerusalem during the time of the Second World War.  He was a guest of Hitler during the War and had some ex-Nazis in his employ after the war ended.  I believe it was he that said of the Jewish immigrants who founded Israel, "Kill them...kill them all!"

If the Israelis have been stiff-necked in their dealings with the Palestinian leadership it would be wise to ponder the nature of their adversaries.  Muslims are commanded by the Koran to honor all treaties with their enemies.  But they are bound to honor them only so long as their enemies do.  Quite often they look for any violation of the treaty, no matter how trivial, as an excuse to set it aside.

This isn't a blanket condemnation of Palestinians or their leaders.  But Arafat and his henchmen are dishonest and duplicitous in their dealings with the Israelis.  Before the Helsinki Peace Talks, Arafat was considered one of the world's most dangerous terrorists.  I refuse to believe that he has had a change of heart.

Regards, Shuckins
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« Reply #6 on: November 22, 2002, 08:27:21 AM »
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Fin's have a long history of ostracizing certain ethnic groups of people, Eagler. In Norway there were around 10,000 children born of parents who were members of Vidkum Quisling's pro-Nazi party, and of love affairs between Norwegian girls and German soldiers. After the war, these children were rejected as so-called 'German kids', maltreated and despised, treated with contempt, in fact refugees in their own country. Considered social misfits, few have received a proper education. To relieve Norway of this embarrassing problem Sweden adopted a few hundred of these children and around 250 were sent to homes in Germany. In 1986, 'The League of Norwegian War Children Lebensborn' was established. Through its efforts, many of these children have found their unknown fathers. Now, 50 years later, these war children only wish 'integration and acceptance with following freedom from anguish'. Today, the League maintains contact with around two hundred former NS children.


How does Finland have anything to do with any of this that happened in Norway??

"Fin's have a long history of ostracizing certain ethnic groups of people"

What exactly do you mean by this?? It has NOTHING to do with our country's history nor present.

It's funny as you mentioned it though considering how native americans ("indians") and african americans were treated in the "land of the free".
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« Reply #7 on: November 22, 2002, 08:29:12 AM »
I didn't know Finns were Norwegians.
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Offline Ripsnort

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« Reply #8 on: November 22, 2002, 08:31:14 AM »
They all look alike to me. :)
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« Reply #9 on: November 22, 2002, 08:31:48 AM »
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I didn't know Finns were Norwegians.


Me neither.
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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2002, 08:33:49 AM »
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
They all look alike to me. :)


You consider it ok to spout BS like this: "Fin's have a long history of ostracizing certain ethnic groups of people". And then act like it's a joke??

np, I'll remember that in the future...
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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2002, 08:50:03 AM »
Busted!
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2002, 09:30:53 AM »
relax my blond european FIN or Norwegian friend.:p


ripsnort is uneducated and a freak with an opinion.


I think you all suck sheep dung anyways:eek: ...you you you pansie leather lovin luftweenie FIN or Norwegian friend.


Long live North America.....land of the free....if ya got money:D
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« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2002, 10:23:13 AM »
classic
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« Reply #14 on: November 22, 2002, 10:28:24 AM »
Isn't Finland just the back side of that hangy down thing at the top left of Europe?
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