Author Topic: Kills vs. Deaths (Read 792 times)

SpitLead · « **on:** February 19, 2001, 03:40:00 PM »

I'm looking at my kills and deaths in the non-expanded view and I have 169 kills against 94 deaths. Yet, in the expanded data view, it says I have 179 kills against 99 deaths. Can anyone explain where the extra 10 kills and 5 deaths came from and why these views show different numbers???

I should think both of these scoring stats should be in sync with each other at least as far as totals go.

SpitLead · « **Reply #1 on:** February 19, 2001, 03:43:00 PM »

Oops. My numbers are actually 169 kills to 90 deaths in the normal score view and 176 kills to 99 deaths in the expanded view (I gained 7 kills and 9 deaths somehow in the expanded view). At any rate, they are not in agreement and they should be.

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #2 on:** February 19, 2001, 03:57:00 PM »

I can't explain the difference in Kills, unless there are a couple of un-traced stats such as maneuver kills.. or something else.

The difference in deaths comes from the fact that the expanded stats only show deaths actually atributed to another pilot. If you crash taking off from a CV, it will show as a death on the pilot score page, but not on the expanded score page.

Also... bails, captures and discos count as deaths on the expanded score page.

AKDejaVu

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SpitLead · « **Reply #3 on:** February 19, 2001, 04:16:00 PM »

AkDejaVu,

What you said sound reasonable except the numbers still don't validate that theory. The expanded score is showing HIGHER deaths than the pilot score whereas you said the pilot score would show other deaths that were non-piloted caused. So, this condition is just the opposite of what you said. I only have one chute "death" so that doesn't make up the difference. I just don't get it...

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #4 on:** February 19, 2001, 04:25:00 PM »

I looked at your stats.. you show 90 total deaths, 28 bails, 16 captures and 3 discos. That totals to 137 deaths (any time you exit your plane in a chute or over enemy territory it is counted a death in the stats section) total. For 38 of those deaths, no credit for a kill was given to any enemy pilots.

AKDejaVu

SpitLead · « **Reply #5 on:** February 19, 2001, 05:27:00 PM »

Thanks for looking into that. Unfortunately, it still doesn't explain why the expanded view kills are still higher than the pilot scores. As you say, the pilot scoring is showing deaths other than those caused by enemy "pilots" so by all rights my pilot score "deaths" should be highter than the expanded scoring and it's not so <scratches head with glazed look in eyes>....

AKDejaVu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 19, 2001, 07:07:00 PM »

My expanded kills are higher too. The correlation seems to be to the number of maneuver kills I've been awarded... or maybe its just the number of chutes I've managed to kill.

Either or.

AKDejaVu

LLv34_Snefens · « **Reply #7 on:** February 19, 2001, 07:29:00 PM »

Manouver kills are counted correctly (or just like normal kills anyway). Kills as (ship)gunner will not show on "non-expanded" view tho.

Furthermore, kills on GV's from bomber (with bombs) don't show up there either. Noticed that on my first bomber mission this tour where I took out an M16 in my Ju88. It still showed 0 kills under bomber stats, but I had 1 kill listed for Ju88 specifically.

You got 1 kill as shipgunner, 2 more kills in bombers than listed in bomber stats. that makes 4 kills to account for.

<edit> I just thought of that kills from fighters with bombs on GV's maybe don't show up either, but I am not sure on that like with bombers. Fact is that the last 4 kills are missing in either fighter and/or attack ranks (vehicle/boat kills match)

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Feenyx · « **Reply #8 on:** February 19, 2001, 07:39:00 PM »

My numbers are also significantly off, though I did track down at least one variable. I was once flying a Seafire over the location of a recently sunk enemy CV, and enemy PT's were still spawning. Unfortunately for them, they spawned within the automated gun range of my own CV and were quickly destroyed. I got credit for 10 kills this way, without firing a shot. But I later noticed that these kills were not computed into my ranking score, only my specific kills vs. plane stats. Which is only fair, IMO.

SpitLead · « **Reply #9 on:** February 19, 2001, 11:04:00 PM »

Thanks guys. That shed some light on the discrepancy. Scoring is always a bit of a mystery...

easymo · « **Reply #10 on:** February 20, 2001, 12:44:00 AM »

Don't read scores. It leads to alcoholism, divorce, and insanity.