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Offline Black Sheep

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Lock up's now with XP Pro
« on: November 24, 2002, 03:07:32 PM »
I am now getting lockups in XP Pro with AH (1 hour into flying) to the point I have to do a hard reboot.  Before I had WIN2000 Pro installed and not a problem. Seems I know the obvious thing to do but was wondering if anyone else got this same prob.

Here's my specs:

Athlon XP 1700+
Asus A7V333 Mobo
512 DDR
Geforce 4 MX 420 64mb/Detdrivers 40.82
All my drivers are current

Both OS get me 60+ FPS, but XP Pro locks it up after about a hour or so of flying.

Could it be an issue with heat and the vid card to the OS? If anyone can help or link me to utilities I can fix with - I'd appreciate it, cause I like XP and want to keep it on there.

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« Reply #1 on: November 24, 2002, 04:02:19 PM »
Check your fans.. make sure they are connected and opperating OK.  You may also want to try running with the case open and see if that helps (if it does.. you have an overheating problem).

Also, some OSs highlight memory bugs.  If you get to the point where you are going to start swaping things... that's where I'd start.

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« Reply #2 on: November 24, 2002, 06:45:32 PM »
Black Sheep with that motherboard you got a disk with via drivers and ASUS Probe.  ASUS probe monitors fan rpms, heat of cpu and motherboard and voltages.  If you didn't install it I'd make it a top priority.
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« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2002, 08:22:09 PM »
Yeah - the case is open and ive run ASUSProbe under 2000 and no probs there - and there is an extra case fan as well - like i said before absolutely no problems with Win2000...

Should I just reinstall 2000?

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« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2002, 08:50:32 PM »
Have you checked the event viewer yet. Control panel admin tools.

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« Reply #5 on: November 25, 2002, 05:00:04 AM »
I was using an Asus GF3Ti500 with WinXP Pro.
Kept locking up and the event viewer would always (from memory) display something along the lines of.

The Asus WDM driver ( AVWDM i think ) cannot start which kinda stopped any vid input activity.
At hard locks the event displayed at the lock up was always relating to an Nvidia file.
NV4 something and always the same file, tried earlier revision drivers same problem.

However after running 3dmark from cold with 20 repetitions and it locking with the same message i tried an old TNT 1 card no further problems.
My Asus had the temp monitor program running and was not overclocked and heat was not a problem according to the temp readout, however its pretty obvious it IS a heat build up related problem with the card as it takes a long time before it fails.

After looking into the warranty side of it and finding that it has a 3 year warranty which is worthless, due to the fact the seller only gives a 12 month wty even tho Asus has it stamped in huge letters across the original packaging a 3 year wty.
According to trading standards the seller is not even obligated to give a years wty let alone 3 years you can imagine my dismay at finding the card was 1 year and 3 days old.

You dont even want to know my opinion of Asus video cards at the moment.

Reluctantly purchased an MSI GF4Ti4200 back up to speed and problem sorted.

Or so i thought until i had another lock up after approx 1.5 hours, when the event manager displayed this,


19/11/2002     21:36:51   WinMgmt   Warning   None   63  NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM   A provider, OffProv, has been registered in the WMI namespace, Root\MSAPPS, to use the LocalSystem account.  This account is privileged and the provider may cause a security violation if it does not correctly impersonate user requests.

Now i use my comp for online banks etc and a firewall is and always will be up and running without fail checking incoming and outgoing.
I even sit behind a router but that firewall is being relaxed for nothing not even WinXP Pro.
After reading that report WinXP has gone i dont care how insecure MS is about there operating systems if i cant lock it
down to suit my purposes then its not for me,  and if something i personally have not activated wants access i get nervous.

Back on Win98SE and enjoying the stability, point of this really is as San says check the event viewer it helps a lot sorting these issues.

Pity I liked XP as well.

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« Reply #6 on: November 25, 2002, 10:54:05 AM »
No problems with WinXp pro here, running it on two platforms at home now.

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« Reply #7 on: November 25, 2002, 01:27:31 PM »
I dont get it then - Ive checked the event viewer - and its logged stuff for both AH and the AH Viewer (which is buggy in all OS for me). I'm not sure what I'm looking at is gonna give me the answer (that I can understand anyways)

There also seems to be a heat issue with something under XPPro - This stuff is powerful and is gonna get hot regardless - but I have adequate cooling when using 2000 and am lockup-free.

The only good thing to come from this so far that I can see is that knowing I'll freeze in about an hour or so, I'm not vegetating in front of the game for longer :)

People are saying that the GF4 420 MX 64mb is a POS - but it's pretty good and stable under the right OS.

I'm gonna tweak some more in BIOS and see what happens