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Offline hawk220

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« on: November 26, 2002, 11:33:28 AM »
Have Yourself a Merry Little Holiday?
 
 
Nov 26, 9:41 am ET

TORONTO (Reuters) - Christmas is becoming an endangered word in parts of Canada in a rash of politically correct behavior -- such as renaming a Christmas tree a "holiday tree" -- that even non-Christians dismiss as silly.
Toronto city officials began the flap last week when they called the 50-foot tree set up outside City Hall a "holiday tree." That sparked much derision and prompted the city's mayor to set the record straight.

"Our special events staff went too far with their political correctness when they called it a holiday tree," said Mayor Mel Lastman. "They were trying to be inclusive and their hearts were in the right place, but you can't be politically correct all the time."

The mayor plans to introduce a motion in city council this week that will officially put the word Christmas in front of the word tree in all future city documents.

The name change led to complaints from Christians and left many non-Christians wondering what all the fuss was about. "To take a generic term, slap it on a symbol that really only has significance to one religion...and then say we're being multicultural does not really fit," said Anita Bromberg of the Jewish group B'nai Brith Canada. "Whatever you call it, it's still a Christmas tree."

"You're not being inclusive when you try to apply one religious symbol to everybody. You call it what is."

Toronto has become the most multicultural city in Canada, with communities from around the world and residents who speak more than 100 different languages.

"I'm not sure what they're trying to achieve," Ahmed Shoker of the Canadian Islamic Congress in Saskatoon said on Monday. "Everyone has the full right to celebrate in their own way."

Toronto is not alone in its efforts to stress a holiday spirit rather than talking about Christmas.

The Royal Canadian Mint has a commercial in which it changes the old holiday standard "Twelve Days of Christmas" to "Twelve Days of Giving." But Mint spokesman Phil Taylor said the wording was merely meant to "position coins as a great gift for the holidays for whatever faith."

"It's the same kind of over the top political correctness," said Bernie Farber, Ontario executive director of the Canadian Jewish Congress. "There seems to be a fear within certain circles in Canada that people are going to react to Christmas in a negative way. But it's not the case.

"It's time to sort of get on with life, accept everybody for who they are and revel in their holidays as opposed to look for ways to deny people's holidays. It's just plain silly."

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« Reply #1 on: November 26, 2002, 12:58:31 PM »
"It's the same kind of over the top political correctness,"

We usually set the trend, Canada follows.  Political correctness is so 1990's. :rolleyes:

We're a desensitized world now, Prison music performed by murderers on MTV, Porn made in colleges(University of Indiana..I could give more examples but I'd just turn Tahgut and Sandman red in the face due to the reflection they see in the mirror.. ;)

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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2002, 01:15:21 PM »
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"It's the same kind of over the top political correctness,"

We usually set the trend, Canada follows.  Political correctness is so 1990's. :rolleyes:




Kurt Tank invented Political Correctness.....you just impose it on everyone else:D

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« Reply #3 on: November 26, 2002, 01:16:25 PM »
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Kurt Tank invented Political Correctness.....you just impose it on everyone else:D


ROTFLOL!

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« Reply #4 on: November 26, 2002, 01:26:25 PM »
I just read this,....this is not new, its been happening since at least 93.   There were actually policies written at a base I was stationed at that we could no longer say "Merry Christmas" or hang banners that had the words "Merry Christmas"..  All greetings and banners could say "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons Greetings".  
Squadron and Wing Christmas parties were officially changed to "Holiday Parties".   The word Christmas was offically verboten.    Christmas vacation?  nope, Holiday vacation.

I retired in 98 so I have no idea if this still happens or not, however I picked my daughter up from school yesterday, Kindergarden, and she said "Daddy, Lets sing some Holiday songs."  
I said "You mean Christmas songs?"  
"No Daddy, Holiday songs, like Jingle Bells"  
"Sara, those are christmas songs"  
"No Daddy, Teacher says those are holiday songs"

They can't change us old farts but they are in the position to condition our children's minds.  

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« Reply #5 on: November 26, 2002, 02:06:26 PM »
our company "holiday party" is on the first Saturday night in Dec :rolleyes:

sad really
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« Reply #6 on: November 26, 2002, 02:11:54 PM »
So all the non-christians should be maginalized for an entire month?

I'm glad of the changes, it makes the HOLIDAY SEASON for everyone, not just for monotheists who worship a guy who lived two thousand years ago.  It's more inclusive now.

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« Reply #7 on: November 26, 2002, 02:14:50 PM »
Ours is called the "Winter Party" now.  It's in January... erm... it used to be before the cutbacks.  Now I don't care if they just call it a Party... I miss the open bars.

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« Reply #8 on: November 26, 2002, 02:19:55 PM »
As a practitioner of Festivus, I only celebrate by raising a sturdy aluminum pole and issueing grievances with the other Festivus party-goers. :cool:

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« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2002, 02:23:22 PM »
Anyone remember the South Park Politically Correct Christmas special a couple years ago. Sad to say it coming true.

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« Reply #10 on: November 26, 2002, 02:41:51 PM »
Jesus would approve of the PC.

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« Reply #11 on: November 26, 2002, 02:45:41 PM »
LOL!  Beautiful!

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« Reply #12 on: November 26, 2002, 02:51:53 PM »
ours is thankfully still a Christmas party
with Christmas gifts and Christmas decorations and, and.. and..

a Christmas tree!!!

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« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2002, 03:13:23 PM »
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I just read this,....this is not new, its been happening since at least 93.   There were actually policies written at a base I was stationed at that we could no longer say "Merry Christmas" or hang banners that had the words "Merry Christmas"..  All greetings and banners could say "Happy Holidays" or "Seasons Greetings".  
Squadron and Wing Christmas parties were officially changed to "Holiday Parties".   The word Christmas was offically verboten.    Christmas vacation?  nope, Holiday vacation.

I retired in 98 so I have no idea if this still happens or not, however I picked my daughter up from school yesterday, Kindergarden, and she said "Daddy, Lets sing some Holiday songs."  
I said "You mean Christmas songs?"  
"No Daddy, Holiday songs, like Jingle Bells"  
"Sara, those are christmas songs"  
"No Daddy, Teacher says those are holiday songs"

They can't change us old farts but they are in the position to condition our children's minds.  

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That policy is alive and well at SubBase NLON.  Royal pain in the ass... they seem to want to deny Christmas exists for whatever reason.

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« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2002, 03:16:12 PM »
Next they'll try to tell us that Santa Claus doesn't exist and its all made up by the toy manufactures.

Whats next Easter?? :rolleyes:

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