Attack points? LOL

[Dux]

Those of you in your panzers and flaks who I engage with my Typhoon on a nightly basis will be happy to learn that I have exactly ZERO attack points.
   I find this funny. I don't really care, as I'm not playing for score (yet... ahem), but this current scoring system seems pointless and irrelevant.

Just my two cents.

[TheWobble]

hehe, try planning a mission for 30 miniutes and then executing it with 10 other aircraft and pulling it off in a flawless manner, return and land, over an hour worth the work for 4.00 points  

[LLv34_Snefens]

Dux, if you are using "dux" as callsign I can see why you have no attack points. You haven't flown an attack sortie yet this tour.

Remember to choose how you would like the mission to be scored in the hangar before you take off.

[Ozark]

Points? Who cares.

Nothing beats a dogfight that goes on and on. During your first pass HO, no one fires their guns, Each pilot smiles and thinks...it's a duel. Your heart pumping faster and faster as you look for a small mistake from your opponent. The advantage changes hands several times. Each looking for a weakness as you and your opponent roll around in the sky. Then just as sudden as the fight started....it ends. Someone goes down in flames...someone survives. In that kind of fight you don't care who won or who lost, you just send a big salute and say wow!

However, until I find that fight, give me more perk points!  

[Dux]

That is exactly my point, Snefens. A plane like the Tiffie, the 38, the hogs, etc... all have a dual role. Seems odd that no points should be awarded because I wasn't psychic enough to know who or what I was going to run into. I'm primarily here to shoot down planes... vehicles are extra. But sometimes i go out and find a bunch of armor, and no planes. How would I have known that in the hangar?

Like I said above, I really don't care. I just think it's funny. It's not going to change the way I play and have fun. It just seems odd that we have a scoring system that doesn't even tell half of the truth.

ps. very eloquent, Ozark. That's why I'm here.  

[J_A_B]

That's what I don't understand about the perk point system, either

Before the current system was intruduced, I always figured if you flew a fighter, A2A kills would be "fighter kills" and A2G would always be "attack kills"    Anything a bomber did would count as "bomber kills"   But, strangely, this isn't the case.

I am fairly sure there's a reason for it, though.

J_A_B

[Sandman_SBM]

 

Originally posted by Ozark:
Nothing beats a dogfight that goes on and on. During your first pass HO, no one fires their guns, Each pilot smiles and thinks...it's a duel.

Oh yeah... there is one thing that beats it... STRAT!!!

In WB, they had the endless furball... everyone moaned and complained for STRAT. In AH, it's already here. I like gratuitous kills as much as the next guy, but having an objective and a well defined plan makes all the difference, IMHO.

cheers
sand

[lazs]

dux... like me, I would venture to say that u don't have many or care about, perkies.   I have enjoyed fighting you in the arena and I notice that you tend to fight till your out of ammo or fuel or ded.   You aquit yourself as well as anyone does in a fight against multiple planes so far as I can see.   The idiotic perk system is not designed for people who fly like you.   Your skill is not the type that is rewarded... It is punished.
lazs

[TheWobble]

 

In WB, they had the endless furball... everyone moaned and complained for STRAT. In AH, it's already here. I like gratuitous kills as much as the next guy, but having an objective and a well defined plan makes all the difference, IMHO

AMEN!

well its nice when i announce on team channel that enemy flak is now at 0 and the reply I get is "yay, another milk run"

kinda pisses me off.

[miko2d]

 

Originally posted by Dux:
...Seems odd that no points should be awarded because I wasn't psychic enough to know who or what I was going to run into...

...Like I said above, I really don't care...

 HTC is adding the perk points scheme to affect realism/game balance.
 From the realism point of view, WWII pilots did not just take off on a whim, they had some mission goals set. If you are in realism camp, you should then set a mission for yourself.
 If, as you said you really do not care, why be upset about that?

 Should HTC spend time implementing some code that would try to guess what you are doing if even you do not care?
 If you do not want to use features in the game, why complain that they d not work.  

miko

[Torgo]

JAB,

The central problem is that AH has two totally different "scoring" systems. Perk points have nothing to do with the pre-existing scoring system, or ranks.

[Nash]

   

Should HTC spend time implementing some code that would try to guess what you are doing if even you do not care?

No, they shouldn't (couldn't). Likewise, I aint able to guess what *I'll* be doing when I get to an nme field. Not to mention that the whole system doesn't take into account that ya may be doing a bit of both. So I just don't see why ground target points aren't automatically put in the attack category and A/A kills put in the fighter category. No guessing required.



[This message has been edited by Nash (edited 02-20-2001).]

[Dux]

All very good points, Miko2d, but maybe you're misreading the tone of my post. As of right now this is not a complaint, because even though the perk system is in place now, it is not counting for anything. I'm not currently being penalized for flying for fun. Now, that is.
But the perk system WILL be here soon enough (v1.06?) and just like anybody else, I'm going to want to try out the "hot" planes. Sure, I'll still prefer my old favorites, but to fly a D-9 or LA-7... mmmmmm  . That is, if I start playing for score. Don't get me wrong, I like the perk system... I think it will be very necessary to balance the arena. But base the perks on a more realistic scoring system.

I guess I do care a little about scores then. Hmm.

As for realism... let's say a Typhoon squad is tasked with an anti-armor mission, 1944. They go out and find two panzers and kill them. On the way home they run into four enemy planes and shoot them down. Are you saying that they will NOT get the kill credits for the planes because it was tasked as an anti-armor mission? Of course not, they will get credit for all kills.
It shouldn't be too hard for a computer to figure out that attack points should go into the attack category. It just seems pretty BASIC (pun intended).

But I don't care about points, really I don't! Really! Okay, maybe just a little. Don't we all?  

[LLv34_Snefens]

Just to set the record straight, you get the exact same ammount of perk points if you shoot down and plane and bomb a building during a sortie, no matter if you choose either Fighter or Attack sortie.
The perk point system don't distinguish between Fighter or Attack, only Figher and bomber.

[StSanta]

I love the new attack score. Good way to keep track of whether you're doing good or bad in it.

Will be evn more fun when I can kill THREE osties a run  



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