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Offline Yeager

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« on: November 28, 2002, 10:20:59 PM »
Wrote his own speeches.

Case in point:

"Fourscore and seven years ago our fathers brought forth on this continent a new nation, conceived in liberty and dedicated to the proposition that all men are created equal.

Now we are engaged in a great civil war, testing whether that nation or any nation so conceived and so dedicated can long endure.

We are met on a great battlefield of that war.

We have come to dedicate a portion of that field as a final resting-place for those who here gave their lives that that nation might live.

It is altogether fitting and proper that we should do this.

But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground.

The brave men, living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract.

The world will little note nor long remember what we say here,
but it can never forget what they did here.

It is for us the living rather to be dedicated here to the unfinished work which they who fought here have thus far so nobly advanced.

It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us --
that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion --
that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain,

that this nation under God shall have a new birth of freedom,
and that government of the people, by the people,
for the people shall not perish from the earth."
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2002, 10:40:33 PM »


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Offline Eagler

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« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2002, 05:19:41 PM »
can't be Yeager, he said the G__ word :)
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« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2002, 07:02:51 PM »
TR still gets my vote.

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« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2002, 07:50:52 PM »
My goodness, I agree with MT.

TR was a hero.
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« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2002, 09:36:33 PM »
I agree that Abraham Lincoln was the greastest president that we have had.  I have thought so for many years.

Of course, back then the Republicans were the liberals....


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« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2002, 10:10:19 PM »
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Originally posted by Karnak
(Eagler, this God is evil delusional rant you've been on for a bit is getting pretty pathetic.  You might want to find a new stick)


uh?

I don't have a problem with Him. I find it amazing others do.
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« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2002, 10:20:09 PM »
Eagler,

I know you don't have a problem with God.  I think I mangled what I was trying to say.

You seem to think that athiests (such as myself) have a huge problem with God, and people who believe in God.

This just isn't so.

I fully support your right to believe as you wish, and in fact would put my life on the line in defense of our country should anybody, external or internal, try to take away your right to so believe.

I have absolutely no problem with a politician, past or present, affirming their belief in God.  It doesn't make me think any less of them.


What I'm getting at is that your current "stick" is a fake, and it is making you look silly.
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« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2002, 12:15:24 AM »
TR must be Ted Roosevelt.  Im a little shallow on my TR history, what exactly did he do besides establish some grand monuments and natural preservations as well as charge up that hill in, was it Cuba....?

And the famous "speak softly, carry a big stick" thing?
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« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2002, 12:25:31 AM »
First of all, He was anemic as a child. His health was very poor. But he refused to let that get to him. He set so many goals ahead of which he accomplished.  I suggest his Bio to you.
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« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2002, 01:58:38 PM »
lincon was a corporate lawyer who ran his campaigns as if he were a rail-splittin' blue collar type - quite disingenuous...& he only freed the slaves (only ones in rebel states - union slave states - Maryland - kept 'em) a military strategy (hoping for a slave revolt in the south) not as some sort of good deed.  
also, his hat was too tall

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« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2002, 03:46:22 PM »
Washington was the greatest president we ever had, for the sole reason that he didn't betray the revolution when he easily could have . When his work was done, he went back to his farm . I can't think of any revolutionary leader that did not betray the revolution except in greek mythology . Lincoln was the second greatest . TR did a lot for the free world in terms of geograpy and global strategy, most notably he accomplished the panama canal where two empires before had failed .

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« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2002, 03:59:34 PM »
Yeager did you know that that speech was written on the fly on the trainride down to gettysburg . Nowadays presidential addresses are written deliberately bland with plain speak so as to be more palatable to the public . It's too bad that presidential speeches cannot be written in that calibre of prose in modern times .

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« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2002, 08:47:51 PM »
William Henry Harrison ... Less time, less mistakes. :D
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« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2002, 10:25:21 PM »
Who was the guy that went against Jefferson the guy who started the electoral college, I forgot was it Adams? Ifso than he is the best President if not for him Dufus Gore would be in the White House right now Thank you Adams I think...