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Offline Duedel

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« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2002, 09:07:29 AM »
More early russian planes.

And: Me 410

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« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2002, 09:36:51 AM »
corey people look upon AH a a WW2 simulator/game mainly.

The majority will want planes that actually fought each other to be modelled before they want to see the ones that were to be introduced had the war continued.
Later when all those planes have been put in and HTC starts to run out of planes to model they will probably start to add them, who knows? but i think for now the majority want to concentrate on the ones that saw action/combat.At least this is what i would hope is the plan.


Theres so many cool planes that saw action why start on ones that didnt yet?

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« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2002, 09:51:22 AM »
if some one bails out then the hellicopter can rescue them. and you can get points. and the person rescued can choose to be a gunner or go to the tower.

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« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2002, 10:24:00 AM »
Chanter you should be shot.  It is requests like that, that HT and pyro see.  They will add these planes in 1.12 coming to you in the summer of 2003.  People cried for Stuka, we got Stuka, people cried for the p-40.  We got that too.  Please all I want to see is a ME-410.  Can't be a modeling thing as there are several in museums worldwide.  Stop the early war blitz of aircraft.  These things just add dust and fill out the over used CT.  Updates are becoming so infrequent it is mind boggling.  Quit trying to add so much toejam into one release and give us small/medium releases instead.

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« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2002, 11:25:52 AM »
Spitfire LF mk IX or
Spitfire LF mk XVI or
Spitfire LF mk VIII   (all with clipped wings):)

A Beaufighter would be nice, i also wanted a stuka and we're finally getting one.:)
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« Reply #20 on: December 01, 2002, 02:25:10 PM »
Most needed IMO:
Italian bomber, preffibly early-mid war.
Cr.42, largest produced  italian fighter of ww2 & Will give us an early war italian plane for early med sets, 202 & 205 fill Mid - Late war pretty well.
Gloster Gladiator, Opponent for Cr.42 and would make some great med scenarios/tods/ct setups!
I-153 & I-16 (Must have I-153 with I-16, HTC is not allowed to model 1 without the other!!!! I-153 was actuelly superior to the I-16 in many ways, and out produced the I-16 during ww2)
He111 & B25 - both very important ww2 bombers.

2nd most important:
Ki43/44/45 to fill out japanese early-mid war plane set.
PZL (cant remember rest of the name) but would be very cool addition :)
Ki-84, not really needed for late war planeset IMO since the A6m2,ki61 and N1k2 are definitly able to compete with allied planes, but too many people want it not to include it.
Medium Russian bomber, il-2 is great ground attacker, but they need something a little heavier!

3rd most important:
variants of planes we allready have, like early war P-38. not the most important, because we can substitute easily now, especially with new skin editor, but its much harder to substitute planes that don't exist yet, look at midway and TBM sustitution for kate!

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« Reply #21 on: December 01, 2002, 02:51:36 PM »
Ya, you're right Sachs,  I don't really want anything to help fill the gaps in the IJ fleet, or any Historically significant bombers to run some proper scenarios, sans substitution.

F* it, gimme some no production wonder plane that I can be l33t in.
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« Reply #22 on: December 01, 2002, 03:23:11 PM »
cajun,

You're a loon.

CR.42 would be useless.

The Gladiator hardly saw any WWII combat at all.  In what way is it "most needed"?  I can think of dozens, probably hundreds, of aircraft that are far more relevant to WWII than the Gladiator.

The I.153 is the most relevant that you could come up with, and even then its nothing special.


If you think the A6M2 is competitive with the F4U-1D and P-51D you're completely off your rocker.  The Ki.61 can fight them from a desparate disadvantage.  The N1K2-J is good, but we are never allowed to use it in setups because it was introduced in January, 1945 and they only built 400 of them.

In contrast the Ki.84 is fast, introduced in the first half of 1944 and they built 3,514 of them.  Not only would it greatly balance the CT, but would see MA usage as well.

If you think biplanes were competitve you really need to go back and read some tactics.
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« Reply #23 on: December 01, 2002, 03:55:33 PM »
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The Gladiator hardly saw any WWII combat at all.  In what way is it "most needed"?  I can think of dozens, probably hundreds, of aircraft that are far more relevant to WWII than the Gladiator.

Yeah right :D, you should check this one... ;)
Gloster Gladiator II in Finnish service

Edit: heres caption from that site...
Aimo E. Juhola provides a personal account of flying the Gloster Gladiator during the Winter War. Juhola was a pilot in LLv 12 and appointed Gladiator GL-277. He writes:

The Gladiator was nice and easy to fly, slower than our opponents, the Russian I-16 and I-153 were. The GL’s aileronforce was less than the I-16’s. The GL was slightly more “agile” than the I-16 and the I-153. The climbing performance was inferior at low levels up to 5,000 meters, at higher altitudes the GL was equal. In straight up climb the Russians were superior because they had adjustable propeller-pitch, which the GL’s didn’t have. In airbattle situations Russians were far more numerous, thus the GL’s greater manoeuvrability became almost meaningless. The greatest difficulty was in getting rid of the enemy after the battles. This was the main reason for the great losses of GL’s. I was in airbattles 5 times; minimum number of enemies was two I-153’s (above our own base) and my guns even jammed! In the Winter War I flew the numbers GL-270, 271 and mainly 277.
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« Reply #24 on: December 01, 2002, 05:06:24 PM »
SB2C Helldiver

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« Reply #25 on: December 01, 2002, 05:19:52 PM »
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Most needed IMO:
Italian bomber, preffibly early-mid war.
Cr.42, largest produced italian fighter of ww2 & Will give us an early war italian plane for early med sets, 202 & 205 fill Mid - Late war pretty well.
Gloster Gladiator, Opponent for Cr.42 and would make some great med scenarios/tods/ct setups!


Cajun, I strongly support you!
Early med sets with CR42 and Gladiators would be a joy!

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« Reply #26 on: December 01, 2002, 07:02:16 PM »
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...The Gladiator hardly saw any WWII combat at all.  In what way is it "most needed"?  I can think of dozens, probably hundreds, of aircraft that are far more relevant to WWII than the Gladiator.

In contrast the Ki.84 is fast, introduced in the first half of 1944 and they built 3,514 of them.  Not only would it greatly balance the CT, but would see MA usage as well.


Gladiators (Faith, Hope, Charity) were, for a time, the only fighter defense on Malta - also Gladiator was the only Swedish fighter in WWII combat.  they fought with the RAF in Norway, too and i think they were the FAA's only carrier fighter until the Sea Hurricane came in about in '41...Ki84 would be a very popular plane in AH: manuverable, well armed, not slow....

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« Reply #27 on: December 01, 2002, 08:27:30 PM »
Dr Zhivago,

I didn't say it saw no combat.  The reality is that the Gladiator was a very minor player in WWII.  The Finns had what?  10? 15?  The British used a very small number in the Mediteranean Theatre.

In the case of the Finns the Fokker D.XXI and Brewster B-239 are far more significant and in the case of the British for the Mediteranean Theatre the Hurricane is far more significant.


(The last name of the pilot you quoted, Juhola, is very similar to my last name, Ahola)
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« Reply #28 on: December 01, 2002, 08:54:33 PM »
Greetings to all and to all a pre-emptive happy holiday season. Try not to break a leg on the slopes.

Anyways I just wanna say that I wish for better graphics in AH. The new planes will come. I already have my favorite rides available so I jut want better graphics.

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« Reply #29 on: December 02, 2002, 01:13:45 AM »
At the risk of sounding repetetive, Re2005.