From Urchin:
"The Ostwind was not produced in great numbers. I believe 43 were made. This past tour, the Ostwind had ~42,000 kills. Thats just about 1,000 kills per machine MADE. On top of the ludicrously low prduction numbers (which seem to be cause enough to perk some otherwise unspectacular planes)"
The ostwind is representive of a number of Armored AA vehicals in use in WW2, the Soviets had the SU 37 which is basicaly the same thing, The Brit's had a similar weapon and the US did not to mention several German vehicals using the same gun. So as is the case with many other points derived from based on production numbers this is kind a moot point.
," the Ostwind gets more than twice the kills of the next closest vehicle (the Panzer). It had ~55% of the total kills made by GVs. It utterly dominates the "anti-tank" planes we have now."
The ostwind should have more kills than the Panzer the ostwind is the only GV that can effectively compeat aganst aircraft in AH. AH is compleatly unrealistic in the way in which aircraft interact with GV's their effectivenns aganst them is way off of any reasionable historical effectivenns that planes had aganst them. So in that vain when ostiwnds are being used agnst planes atacking a field they should be used more often and have more of an impact in terms of kills.
"It is practically immune to bombs of less than 500 pounds. "
LOL, any one who is any good with a bomb can kill any GV with a 50KG bomb, one is enough if deleaved right.
"The 'open-topped' turret which should be just about an instant kill is also not easily damaged except by Hispanos or 30mm weapons."
LOL, I have my osty turet killed all the time by all sorts of weapons from 7mm up and from all angles, hell I killed 8 ostys in a 1 hour perioud using the guns alone on a A6M2.It has been shown numiours time that the osty turet is actualy undermodeled in terms of it's abality to withstand fire aganst it from weapons that should not be able to hurt it based on armor value and range.
" And of course, while you need a nice, sustained, two second burst to knock out the turret, it needs a single hit to kill you. "
Well it should only take one hit to kill you, and a good one second burst in the top is suficient yes, or would .2 seconds make u feal better?
"It is also, incidentally, the only GV to use for destroying objects. One time a couple months ago, I took an Ostwind to an enemy field that wasn't under attack by our planes. I took out all the field ack, killed the fuel, barracks, and radar, destroyed the VH, killed 3 planes trying to take off or land, then rolled over to the town and killed all of it, then proceeded to kill 1 other Ostwind, 2 Panzers, and an enemy M-3. I still had ammo left over. "
This has a lot to with how HTC treats HE in the game, if they look at how this works adn make adjustment's has they have hinted they are going to do them i think this will be less of an issue, curently the osty fires off he equavelency to the panzers one 75mm round ever 4 rounds I think so their is no way the Panzer can compeat. The AP effectiveness of the Ostys gun is actualy prety good somthing like 35mm at 30 degreas at 100 yards.
"My biggest problem with it (besides the fact that it will kill any single engined plane with 1 hit) is that you can't ignore it."
So it is ok to argue for historical effectivenss of weapos as long as it does not inconveance you?The 37mm round it fires is bigger and mre destructive than the 30mm MK 108 yet were not upset that it takes only one hit to kill most all the time.
"Let a Ostwind roll up to a field, and 2 minutes later all the ack is dead and the Flakpansie has closed that field all by himself."
Once again ths has a lot to with how HTC models HE equavelency and less to do with the ostwind, Dieacking a field can be done with M8's and Panzers as well.
"Let him roll up to the town and 1 minute later the entire town is dead. Then 2 minutes after that you lose the field because an M3 rolled up with 5 other Flakpansies as 'escort'. "
Well again this goes back to He equavelency,this is also kinda a lame argument in that an A20G and a M3 team can do the same thing, the key hear is that for both to actualy do this they would have to go unoticed, if they were at all they could easly be stoped.
"It is an 'all-in-wonder' weapon, thats why it should be perked."
It is curently the only way GV's can operate in AH as an effective, viable means to be used for defense or atack, remove the osty or perk it and the numbers used will drop signistudmuffinently, perking even with a small point value will have a drastic impact on usage, I have always hoped the GV aspect of AH would be increased to perk the osty would do the opsit.
Osty's require paiticane and forthought to kill , at least to do so with impunity, certainly as much as any one on one dogfight would require, all other GV's are dog meat.
Osty's are also very easy to knock out, if you find that not true then perhaps u nead to think about how you are going about doing that.
