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Offline EvilDingo

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1.11 will make it or break it for me
« on: December 01, 2002, 08:44:08 PM »
I've been playing Aces High for about 3 years now. In that time, there have been some excellent updates. My favorites were when we got carriers (which had some pretty funny and frustrating bugs at the start) and that awesome aircraft update when we got the La7, D9, and the Yak-9T.

You might cry about the La7 and D9, but you have NO IDEA how many Spits and P-51s used to be in the arena before this update came along. It really spread out the planeset.

I like scenarios, but 99.9% of the time Aces High gameplay is the MA. Why is MA gameplay secondary? Why are MA aircraft secondary? The last aircraft released that got any minor attention in the MA was the 110g2 which was quickly re-evaluated to a low ENY value. That's sad.

I guess that's what's bothering me the most. What makes AH fun for me are new and interesting (and at least modestly competitive) aircraft to learn and fly in the MA. So far in 1.11 none have been mentioned, which is a trend that I've been following for way too long.

Lately, updates take too long and there isn't enough new content for the MA. I hope 1.11 is different.

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Offline Vulcan

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« Reply #1 on: December 01, 2002, 09:51:30 PM »
Does this get rated as a an "I Quit" or a whine post?

Ahh well, I'll give ya 6/10 for effort.


Face it - your an addict. No one ever really leaves AH...

Offline EvilDingo

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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2002, 10:26:01 PM »
Hardly a "I quit" whine. I don't have the enormous ego required to make myself think other people give a crap whether I play or not.

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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2002, 10:33:52 PM »
I'd like to be the first to add...BRING THE P47M TO Aces High.  


ps. Will send 3 cases of moon pies

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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2002, 10:49:46 PM »
Moon pies are worth more than your soul. Mmmmmmm.
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« Reply #5 on: December 01, 2002, 11:23:20 PM »
The P-47M will be a hangar queen.

Bring the Ki.84-Ia to AH!
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« Reply #6 on: December 01, 2002, 11:28:40 PM »
Forget all that noise, BRING THE BE-ER12 TO AH!!!!

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« Reply #7 on: December 01, 2002, 11:33:56 PM »
I hate to rain on your parade... but do you know how long I waited for the P-40B because everyone was demanding all those monster late war planes? Don't tell me the P-40B was a waste of resources just because most people won't fly it. I fly the P-40B in the main arena. I don't care about losing planes, I am here for the fun. The older planes that freaks like me prefer were neglected far too long. It is our turn to get something we like instead of being releases dominated by late war perk planes.

Planes like the early P-38s should have already been in the set, where are they?

Ripsnort has been waiting for a P-61 half of his life ;)

Mitsu would love to see all the appropriate Japanese planes (including some MA types like the Frank).

What about the He111? With the announcement of the Stuka, it is the last major LW plane needed to complete a decent BoB planeset.

Of course there are some people awaiting Brewster Buffalos and Gloster Gladiators.

The Italians feel a little slighted since they had several competitive planes and only the 2002/2005 shows up.

What about the Russian planeset? Early war fighters, multi-engine bombers...

While so many planes have already been done, there are still so many to do. Personally, I am happy with the pace HTC is doing. It shouldn't be too much longer before this game includes every major aircraft regardless of timeframe or performance.
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« Reply #8 on: December 01, 2002, 11:37:28 PM »
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Echoes my sentiments exactly.  You have your late war boomers AND you have your early-war historic planes.  Why complain about having both?

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« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2002, 06:09:42 AM »
Like a line from the song "Hotel California".. (when thinking you can quit AH?)

"You can punch out any time you want.."

"BUT YOU CAN NEVER LEAVE!"

(I've tried)

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« Reply #10 on: December 02, 2002, 07:07:13 AM »
How many fighters are left to be modelled that could have significant use in the MA?    I can't think of more than a handful:

Yak-3, P-47M, J2M3, Ki.84, Ki.100, G.55, 109K?    These could all be done in a single version release, but what could we look forward to after that?

I agree with Beeker, I feel like its getting to be too long a wait between updates.

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« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2002, 07:30:56 AM »
Actually I have to say I totally agree.

The last few updates are taking longer and longer, and have little for the average player.

Sure if your one of the "vocal" tiny minority of early war plane people, things have been great.  But if you get only a little flight time a tour in the MA things have been very static lately.

Even the update with the changes to the bombers was a big bust since it made bombers extinct because of the difficulty of doing anything with the new bomb sight, and the still present damage transfer bug.

I'm curious to see just what 1.11 will bring since I thought its major feature was the mission arena (not really for me either) and thats already been canceled.  

A redo of the P-51 model? Looks good, but *yawn*.   A perk Tiger Tank? Useless when armor is taken out with strafing planes using .50's.  A early war Japanese dive bomber? Great for scenarios, but totally useless for the MA.

So just what is 1.11 going to be?

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« Reply #12 on: December 02, 2002, 07:49:12 AM »
I'd like to see an update as much as you guys but at least there are regular large updates. You could fly elsewhere and see the team working on other products other than what you are paying for or fly another and stil lbe waiting for many features promised when it launched.

Bomber simulation in this sim is better than any other out there right now, not perfect but a hell of a lot better and you can hit things with the bombsight it just takes a little practice.

I think HTC are goign the right way with plane additiosn too, the MA has more than enough furball planes and with the mission based arena being worked on with historical planesets being used they need to add these planes. Why give furballers any more choice when all they tend to use is the La7 or Niki anyway.

Perhaps your apathy stems from your mind being on another sim Vermillion

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« Reply #13 on: December 02, 2002, 07:53:48 AM »
We need an early war area only in the MA arena... carve out the bottom 1/3 of the horrible pizza map and make it for early war planes only with a 50K mountain range seperating it from the late war part... make seperate resets...  All of a sudden you will have a choice of 20 or thirty planes to fight against instead of 5 or 8..  updates will be worthwhile in the MA.
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« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2002, 07:57:08 AM »
I also like the early war rides, and they far out number the premimum rides that are left for the mail arena. There are several different people out there who like different planes and or different vehicles.

  My favorite ride is the Hurricane Mk1, I know I am gonna get wacked a lot by LA-7's, Spit IX's and Niki's and I don't care. I enjoy flying the older planes and it is very satisfying when you can take out one of the "premimum" rides with an early war bird.

 You also might want to consider that there is a better plane set in AH than in just about any other flight sim out there, or at least the Massive Player ones anyway.

    I do agree however that planes lie the Ki-84 need to be in AH, and have no doubt that they eventually will be, but development takes time. I have wanted to fly a Stuka every since I started playing AH a couple years ago, and I am very excited about the new update because I finally get to have it. Guess what, I will most likely get shot down a lot in the Stuka, but that is okay too, it is all about the fun and sheer joy of flying to me. I would also like to see the Brewster Buffalo, IL-4, Commonwealth Boomerang, Z.1007, Ki-43, Fairey Firefly, I-16, D520, PBY Catalina, B24, B25, He111, Do217, P-61 and several other planes as well. All we can do is take it as we can get it and remember that development takes time.



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« Last Edit: December 02, 2002, 08:00:08 AM by Conagher »
Sigh..........I really wish HTC would put a beer holder in the cockpit.