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Offline Animal

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« Reply #15 on: April 30, 2001, 10:30:00 AM »
When I fight, I fight pilots.
The plane is just an indication of the way he may try to fight me.

Pilots who blame the plane the enemy flies for the outcome of the fight, are lesser pilots, no matter if they think they are flying a more acceptable plane.

I fly that "special" plane because I love it. I know many people respect me because I fly it most, and I fly it well. But what if I prefered a chog or if my favorite plane was a Nik? those same people would hate me. No matter how good I would be in it.

I flew a spitfire for almost a tour because I had problems killing spit pilots in my P-38. so I decided to fly the damn thing and find its weaknesses. after many good fights in it, I never got nearly as many <S>'s as when I fly my P-38 (in wich I actually do better overall)

Whats the big deal?
should I respect more those who fly a jug or a 190a8? frankly, I dont give a diddly.

I know a good pilot when I fight one. Be it flying a nik or a damn 202.

I give a good <S> only when I think that person deserves it.

What if its a super ACM genius flying a "dweeb" f4u-c who fights a dumb piece of toejam trying to gain acceptance by flying a P-47 or a 109f4?

MOST PROBABLY, the dork flying the "underdog" plane will press / and type NO SKILL CHOG DWEEB LEARN TO FLY A REAL PLANE


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« Reply #16 on: April 30, 2001, 10:47:00 AM »
Aye animal I appreciated the comment last night from ya, you had more E then I did and were outdistancing me in that 38, I just hit zoom squeezed off 15 or so rounds of MG 151/20 and I was able to hit you at D600 I think.  I was out of WEP used it in the heated furball over there for sometime, and was OMW back to base which was being overrun by a chitload of Bish's.  Needless to say I got vulched on landing.  

At any rate <S> it is very rare to recieve compliments, and even rarer to recieve check 6 calls    I also want to thank the guys that did give me 6 calls.  I now try and fly around the guys I know that give them out, sometimes we cannot see everything but having someone else helping you out is a bonus.  

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« Reply #17 on: April 30, 2001, 10:52:00 AM »
WTG Animal!

I had a waffle tell me I had no skill after I shot him down while flying a F4U-1C.

My reply was...How much more skill did you have for letting me get a gun solution?

Anytime you let any plane get a gun solution on you, then you made a mistake somewhere along the way, period, end of story.  Irrespective of the planes being flown.

Man, some folks take this hobby way too seriously.

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(who makes that mistake wayyy too many times..hehe)

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« Reply #18 on: April 30, 2001, 10:57:00 AM »
I agree Cobra. It's your fault if you get shot down, even by the "dreaded" chog. Would you believe I've been shot down by the chog only twice this tour? In 85 sorties, they have gotten me 2 times.
It's the pilot. I have always said that and until it's proven otherwise, I will continue to say that.

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« Reply #19 on: April 30, 2001, 12:07:00 PM »
Launched from a CV last night near an enemy port we were trying to take. I saw a strong red bar on the dar, and suspecting GV's I launched in a C with bombs and rocks.

When I got there I found a couple of enemy fighters, a dead VH, and all ack gone. One was a Spit turning with a couple guys, and I made one pass through the mess and plucked it. The base was ours IF we could get a gooney there and IF the fighters from the nearby base could be taken out. I decided to move toward the nearest enemy base to engage what appeared to be launching fighters.

When I arrived I dropped my two bombs on the hangar- no kill, but it was softer now. Two fighters had launched- an F4U and an La7. They were smart and stayed in the ack umbrella while they climbed. They also spread out a bit so that if I attacked one the other was in a position to get me from behind. I let them climb a bit, waiting for one of them to make a mistake.

The La7 made the mistake first. He must have sensed we were near getting the base, so he broke for the port. He had a full head of steam up, and must have figured I would now go for the easy kill on the F4U. He was wrong. I had 5K of alt at least and a full head of steam. I set the C in a long, shallow dive to his 6. I got to about 1.4 and the distance stabilized. Realizing that I needed alt more than I needed to be stuck low if he reversed I started a shallow climb. As the counter rolled slowly up he decided to climb for his move.

This was his second mistake. I simply leveled out and then went into a gentle lag pursuit in his vertical climb. I had enough smash left to nail him if he didnt't go any more vertical. He obviously thought I wouldn't have enough zoom to get close, and was trying to milk everything he could out of his climb. He hung motionless in front of my four hispanos, me closing slowly but surely... at 650 I opened up. He tried to spin down, but it was too late. His tail neatly parted company, and he spun helplessly into the ocean.

About then I looked back. The C that had launched before was just now catching up. I was low E and headed the other way, but I knew our gooney was near the base and this guy had to be delayed or stopped. I turned toward him, dropped the nose, and WEP'd. I had 250mph or so indicated, he was above with a full head of steam, and I had a choice- if he's smart he blows by me and kills the goon at the base. If he is smart he goes up and plays the E game and kills me. I decide that any gun solution I get I will take, and gamble I will win.

He drops his nose on me from about 1K advantage, and I know he is going to HO. I meet him, guns blazing, and blow his wings off- of course, he took mine, too. Still, I had kept him away from the goon, and that was what I wanted.

Now, here's the point- two of those guys could easily have avoided me, and in all likelihood killed me (especially if they'd worked together). I would have killed that La7 from the same distance in a .50 armed bird, he just let me get too close to his 6. The C had every advantage he needed to kill me and went for the bad shot anyway. Whose fault was it, me for flying an uber plane, or them for giving me the opportunity to do what I did?

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« Reply #20 on: April 30, 2001, 01:09:00 PM »
 WELL IM NOT SO SHUR ....i had my best run in a la7 11 kills .... ..and i was drunk as askunk haveing a great time ...so i say its the alcohal  ....ok maybe  then it must of been pur luck ??....no ??? well then it must be the pilot then .. ...ok whishfull thinking on my part ...lol

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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2001, 01:15:00 PM »
This is the ONLY EXTREMELY lethal plane in Aces High.. but it seems to ONLY attack RAM...
 

hehehehehe
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2001, 01:19:00 PM »
fatty,

well thats obviously true. In a fight between a p47 and (example) a spitfire, if the jug loses he is more likely to spout "hispano dweeb" or some other saying than the spitfire pilot is to say "jug dweeb"

but i still stand by my statement. and im not talking about plane nationality loyalty becvause it applies to all countries.. zekes, jugs, 190a8s, etcera


the guys in the more difficult planes are the better pilots, on average. which is why overall k/d cannot be used as an indication of aircraft quality.

from the stats you would think the p47 d25 is vastly better than the p47d30, but thats not the case, its the pilots who are flying that bird that make the difference (in this case drex and hanzo)


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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2001, 02:24:00 PM »
I think I'll add a line to the "Top 10" lists.  It can be "Everyone Else".  Basically, pull the top pilot's stats out and see how the statistics fare.

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« Reply #24 on: April 30, 2001, 02:51:00 PM »
Deja, is there a way to see who has the highest fighter k/d now with the new stats or does one have to go thru the list manually?

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« Reply #25 on: April 30, 2001, 02:53:00 PM »
I have a spreadsheet that compiles the list.  It will take about a day to run once the tour is over.  It has about 1500 IDs in it.

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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2001, 03:01:00 PM »
The stats are right there, Zigrat.  The d25 is a better dogfighter than the d30.  The 30 is a better ground pounder.

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« Reply #27 on: April 30, 2001, 03:04:00 PM »
rgr. The monthly list you do is for highest k/d per fighter. I was just curious who had the highest overall k/d, whether they were "top 100" or not.

Thanks for what you do for the community.

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« Reply #28 on: April 30, 2001, 03:09:00 PM »
Ah... I don't know if that's possible or not Apache.  I've heard people state what other people's position was in regards to hit % and so forth, but have not seen how its done.

My stuff doesn't do cumulative stats... only individual aircraft stats.  That's pretty much what I'll stick to.

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« Reply #29 on: April 30, 2001, 03:11:00 PM »
ok, thanks. Guess I will just have to do a lot of clicking, huh? hehe