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Re: It would teach them discipline....
« Reply #15 on: December 03, 2002, 05:10:54 PM »
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Something it seems is lacking in our society.

Then I remembered the UCMJ. IMHO, forcing anyone to adhere to the rules in that document is a violation of their constitutional rights.


C'mon Weazel... that document is horribly out of date. We used to joke about it. No one actually thought it was possible to go an entire day without breaking at least one of the codes.
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« Reply #16 on: December 03, 2002, 05:12:00 PM »
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I trust them more than businesses or universities (which are businesses).


I don't. I don't trust them any less either.
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« Reply #17 on: December 03, 2002, 05:14:13 PM »
Dude look what the info is:  "name, address and phone number."
If you give that to businesses, some of them will sell the info, and you are going to get spammed.
The military already has your name and address (when you registered for the draft).  I don't see them doing anything evil with the phone number.

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« Reply #18 on: December 03, 2002, 05:17:54 PM »
Recruiting... hell, all you have to do is create a first person shooter and give it away free.

I think I'm on to something. :D
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Re: Even better.
« Reply #19 on: December 03, 2002, 06:47:24 PM »
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Make the little Sad Sacks do a mandatory 2 year enlistment after high school, I'll guarantee the ones with the guts to complete their term of service will be better men because of it.

The ones who can't hack it can complete two years of community service picking up trash along highways.


Amen.

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« Reply #20 on: December 03, 2002, 11:08:54 PM »
Ya know...my entire family was in the military (save for the women) and they all tried to pressure me into going into the military. I refused, and still do.

I know what a sacrifice is...talk to my uncle and my dad, who served in Desert Storm and Viet Nam...tlak to my grandfather about Korea, and my other grandfather about WWII...talk to my other uncle about Somolia and Panama.

I don't want to join the military for the same two rasons my dad and surviving uncle got out of it...one because they don't make good money, and two because I don't want to have my mom or girlfriend recieve a folded flag and a medal for valor. I don't want to put my famliy in a situation like that.

I'll put my family over Uncle Sam any day...

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« Reply #21 on: December 04, 2002, 05:36:01 AM »
I don't see the surprise, shock, or dismay. Of course schools let recruiters in. Not all kids can afford college or are college-bound. I think it's a great thing. It's an opportunity kids can take or not, no one forces them.

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« Reply #22 on: December 04, 2002, 07:11:37 AM »
Giving the Pentagon unfettered access to schoolchildren in order to turn them into emotionless non-thinking kill-bots sounds great.

I’m in!

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« Reply #23 on: December 04, 2002, 07:20:37 AM »
Name, Address and Phone Number is "unfettered access"?

And just a question here....... if high school grads aren't recruited, where will the people that fill the ranks of the military come from?

Or are we just about to do away with the military because the US no longer needs one? Did I not get a copy of that memo?

If not our own sons and daughters..... then who?
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« Reply #24 on: December 04, 2002, 08:30:14 AM »
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Name, Address and Phone Number is "unfettered access"?

And just a question here....... if high school grads aren't recruited, where will the people that fill the ranks of the military come from?

Or are we just about to do away with the military because the US no longer needs one? Did I not get a copy of that memo?

If not our own sons and daughters..... then who?


My goodness, no more cannon fodder for corporate interests? Why we’d have………Peace for Christ sakes!

My friend I don’t care to argue this point because that’s merely another form of warfare.  ;) But I will state my point more clearly. I can’t say I’ve attained great wisdom over the years but one thing I’m one hundred percent sure of is that “War” isn’t the problem, its “Warriors”.

To listen to politicians every Veteran’s Day spouting off about the terrors and inhumanity of warfare and then turn around and support yet another war makes me sick.

“A common and natural result of an undue respect for law is, that you may see a file of soldiers, colonel, captain, corporal, privates, powder-monkeys, and all, marching in admirable order over hill and dale to the wars, against their wills, ay, against their common sense and consciences, which makes it very steep marching indeed, and produces a palpitation of the heart. They have no doubt that it is a damnable business in which they are concerned; they are all peaceably inclined. Now, what are they? Men at all? or small movable forts and magazines, at the service of some unscrupulous man in power? Visit the Navy-Yard, and behold a marine, such a man as an American government can make, or such as it can make a man with its black arts- a mere shadow and reminiscence of humanity, a man laid out alive and standing, and already, as one may say, buried under arms with funeral accompaniments.”

- Thoreau

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Re: Even better.
« Reply #25 on: December 04, 2002, 08:58:10 AM »
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Make the little Sad Sacks do a mandatory 2 year enlistment after high school, I'll guarantee the ones with the guts to complete their term of service will be better men because of it.

The ones who can't hack it can complete two years of community service picking up trash along highways.


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Re: Time to think outside the box.
« Reply #26 on: December 04, 2002, 09:07:47 AM »
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My goodness, no more cannon fodder for corporate interests? Why we’d have………Peace for Christ sakes!

Riiiiight... lets do away with the military.  We'll be perfectly safe then.  :rolleyes:

My friend I don’t care to argue this point because that’s merely another form of warfare.  ;) But I will state my point more clearly. I can’t say I’ve attained great wisdom over the years but one thing I’m one hundred percent sure of is that “War” isn’t the problem, its “Warriors”.

What??  Ya... the DoD starts all the conflicts we get in.  

To listen to politicians every Veteran’s Day spouting off about the terrors and inhumanity of warfare and then turn around and support yet another war makes me sick.

So we should just quit eh?  All those "bad people" in the world will all get teary eyed and send us flowers and lots of bon bon's.  :eyes rolling out of head:

“A common and natural result of an undue respect for law is, that you may see a file of soldiers, colonel, captain, corporal, privates, powder-monkeys, and all, marching in admirable order over hill and dale to the wars, against their wills, ay, against their common sense and consciences, which makes it very steep marching indeed, and produces a palpitation of the heart. They have no doubt that it is a damnable business in which they are concerned; they are all peaceably inclined. Now, what are they? Men at all? or small movable forts and magazines, at the service of some unscrupulous man in power? Visit the Navy-Yard, and behold a marine, such a man as an American government can make, or such as it can make a man with its black arts- a mere shadow and reminiscence of humanity, a man laid out alive and standing, and already, as one may say, buried under arms with funeral accompaniments.”

- Thoreau


I think Thoreau was not much more than a loser with too much time on his hands.  oooooo... transcendental writing.  Just get high and sit on a pond bank for awhile, you'll be a pro lol!!
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« Reply #27 on: December 04, 2002, 09:29:37 AM »
So, do colleges and businesses get access to military bases and records?
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« Reply #28 on: December 04, 2002, 09:31:12 AM »
So, Blur, at the present time you see no need for a US Military establishment?

They can all just disband and go home?
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« Reply #29 on: December 04, 2002, 09:32:32 AM »
Blur that's cute and all but don't forget that those men of arms are the only reason you can sit on your bellybutton and spew peacenik blather in comfort and safety and freedom from reprisal.  :)