Home defense training?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by lazs2

the most important thing tho is to watch a lot of action movies and learn the proper way to hold handguns sideways... This makes you look like a real badass who knows what he is doing and will gain you the respect of even the most hardened criminal.
lazs

Heh, ya ever notice when reading "Drive by" stories that the intended victim never gets shot? Its always the innocent bystander.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by lazs2
the most important thing tho is to watch a lot of action movies and learn the proper way to hold handguns sideways...

I got a question about this stupid little practice.

It would seem that the naturally extended arm (palms down) would naturally hold a pistol "sideways" most comfortably. Why then has no one made a pistol that takes advantage of this more natural stance?

honestly curious.

[MrLars]

Originally posted by easymo
If you confront the situation in a calm manner your better able to assess and act properly.



Ya. Nothing to it. LOL

In '62, before I joined the Army, I was woken up by the sound of breaking glass outside in my carport. I pulled on some shorts and grabed my handgun stuffing it in the waistband at the small of my back. I confronted the burglar and whan he challenged me with a knife I reached back trying to grab my gun. The damned thing sliped under the waistband of my shorts and there I was, shaking like a leaf fumbling in my shorts trying to get a grip on my gun. Fortunatley the guy took the opportunity to leap over a fence make his escape.

A year ago I was in the same sort of situation, this time I sent my dog < A Dane called Astro > out first and followed with my gun in hand. This time I calmly told Astro to release him < she had a hunk of his bellybutton in her mouth > and held him there at gunpoint until the cops arrived.

A big difference between 40 years ago and now. My training in the Army along with considerable time in SEA has made my approach to situations as described calculated instead of reactionary.

[popeye]

I think a shooter is looking more for stability, than comfort.

[Dune]

Originally posted by midnight Target
I got a question about this stupid little practice.

It would seem that the naturally extended arm (palms down) would naturally hold a pistol "sideways" most comfortably. Why then has no one made a pistol that takes advantage of this more natural stance?

honestly curious.

Several reasons I can think of off the top of my head:

1. Recoil.  I would think you could handle the recoil better.

2. Sights on the top of the gun vertically line up with eyes better than if the gun was held sideways.

3. Sights are on top of rifles.  Makes sense to leave them there for pistols.

I can't even imagine trying to shoot it sideways.  Perhaps just from a lifetime of shooting.

[MrLars]

I can't even imagine trying to shoot it sideways.  Perhaps just from a lifetime of shooting.

Unless you like hot brass nipping at your toes

[lazs2]

the prefered 2 handed hold is difficult and useless holding the gun sideways.... the brass (typicaly) would either cross your vision (in semi autos) as it was ejected (very distracting)or hit you in the face.    it is difficult to recover from recoil and get a good second aimed shot.   Shot groups string in the horizontal rather than the more desirable vertical... not pleasant for bystanders and les chance of getting a piece of what you are shooting at when aiming at center of mass.   14 near miss's are spectacular but...   might be ok for shooting four legged animals while using laser sights.

In order to design a pistol that would let you grip and sight while holding out the arm palms down... the gun would be very bulky... basicly square or triangular.
lazs