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Offline Beaz

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« Reply #15 on: July 30, 1999, 02:05:00 AM »
 
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Not to harp. But in truth it will come down to who has the smallest collision bubble.

hehe... thats a totally seperate issue  

I'm interested to also find out that if AH goes to a "reasonable" flat rate pricing structure... say something along the lines of $29.95 per month all you can eat... would the AW guys go for something like that? I mean you AW guys are well used to paying £9.95 a month... us WB guys are well used to paying through the nose but if AH was percieved to be "better" than both AW and WB would the AW squads move over?

Would you guys be prepared to "eat" the extra $20 a month it would cost... purely hypothetical question of course. I know the Warbirds squads would simply move on price and the possibility of flying a "better" sim...

Seems this whole thing boils down to HTC being able to capture the already well established squads in both AW and WB to make headway... lots of bucks if you can capture a whole squad or organisation.

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Offline bod

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« Reply #16 on: July 30, 1999, 02:23:00 AM »
I think there are a lot of people who have not "discovered" online flight sims yet, so i think there are room for a lot more games.

Othervise i think that the quality is of major importance. It must be easy and intuitive to log on, and the connection HAVE to work at least 99% of the time, and it has to work good. No one would for instance buye a golf club that stopped working every no and then for no apparent reason  


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« Reply #17 on: July 30, 1999, 05:02:00 AM »
What Makes A Good Online Flight Sim.


IMHO:

1. It flies like a real airplane. Adverse Yaw...stalls...roll rates..etc..etc..

2. Its done its research and has done the best it can in comparison to other acft in the game as to what its actual Flight Envelope and Performance / Handling characteristics where.

3. Gunnery/Damage/Ammo/Collisions accurate.

4. If its heavy...it flies different...appropriatly.

5. Graphics and Redouts/blackouts/pilot movement allows player immersion into the game.

6. Eye Candy

7. Details Detail Details...Gunsights/Norden/Bombs with yellow stripes

8. Options.....Gunning for B17's, wide assortment of Ordanance options.

9. Strategy and ground targets

10. A fine balance of Reality and Gaming.  I dont want to fly 45 mins to the next field...but I dont want to fly 2 mins to it either.

11. Logistics vs strategy...I blow your train up...and you dont get no ammo for 30 mins at that field.

12. RPS. And when a plane went out of service...take it out of RPS.

13. Pacific and European arenas

14. SL's

15. Great Community Support.

16. It wont cost me a fortune.

17. Frequent Acft Additions.

18. Something designed for a MINIMUM 266PII. Im not a fan of having inferior products to keep the low end consumer active.  Call me selfish.

19. I never want it to stop amazing me. (Thats completely Objective tho)

20. Voice Comms.


Every Thing else is trivial for me.

Right Now the Winner is War Birds....Soon I think it will be Aces High.  And Ill keep moving till my finers are to old to grip the stick.
 

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« Reply #18 on: July 30, 1999, 07:51:00 AM »
Beaz: In answer to your question, I would say that if AH becomes what I hope it will, that many if not all AW squads would make the jump over to AH. It would be a done deal though if there were a reasonable flat rate pricing structure. I for one could handle something in the neighborhood of 29.95 per month for all I can fly; which incidentally would only be about 30 hours per week. I tend to agree with you about attracting whole squadrons over here. I know my AW squad has been around for a long time in AW, since Dos days, and we have discussed this very issue on and off now for the last 2 years or so. If the sim were right including pricing, we would jump w/o hesitation.
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dmac

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« Reply #19 on: August 01, 1999, 05:39:00 PM »
well i play AW an from canada...that 10$
is 17$ at times so 29$ mite be to much
for me... do the math...
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Offline Westy

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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 1999, 01:24:00 PM »
Beaz wrote, "I'm interested to also find out
that if AH goes to a "reasonable" flat rate
pricing structure... say something along
the lines of $29.95 per month all you can
eat... would the AW guys go for something
like that? I mean you AW guys are well used
to paying £9.95 a month..."

I signed onto GameStorm when the intial flat
fee was 39.95 unlimted per month. so yes I
would go for 29.95 but I would also keep my
Gamestorm account and just have more fun
while still able to afford a house, car
payments and a night on the town with the
wife now and then.
 I'm not going to bother adding to the AH-AW-
WB thrashing other to say that $$$$ is a most
deciding factor. If somone wants to pay more
for what they *believe* to be more then fine.
 I just ask same people not feel they are
also priveleged to look down thier noses at
other peoples enjoyment.
 Othe than that....
 Glad to be here and I look forward very much
to what Aces High will bring about...

 -Westy

[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 08-02-1999).]
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Offline Moto24

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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 1999, 02:28:00 PM »
      I can't see paying 29.95, I can keep
my GS account, fly FA on the Zone (soon to be
FAII) and fly Dessert Fighters(Free, w/up to
64 people in an arena) all for under 20.00.
At a price like that I couldn't afford not to
fly AH and never never fly another sim.

       I think that having more sims is better for all. It keeps the pressure on the other guy to improve or fall to the wayside.
AW finally made some improvments to its spin model that made alot of people happy, and
spinfighters not so  

        Even if the price was inline with AW
I wouldn't jump over for that reason, It would have to be a squad decision. I like flyin with the people I do.

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Offline Otter

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« Reply #22 on: November 05, 2001, 07:20:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Westy:

 I'm not going to bother adding to the AH-AW-
WB thrashing other to say that $$$$ is a most
deciding factor. If somone wants to pay more
for what they *believe* to be more then fine.
 I just ask same people not feel they are
also priveleged to look down thier noses at
other peoples enjoyment.
 Othe than that....
 Glad to be here and I look forward very much
to what Aces High will bring about...

 -Westy

[This message has been edited by Westy (edited 08-02-1999).][/QB]

Wow what a prescient thread  :)
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Offline Rotorian

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« Reply #23 on: November 05, 2001, 08:49:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Cuff:

What we're really all looking for is entertainment, pure and simple.  


<golf clap>

Great job Cuff.
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Offline Frodo

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« Reply #24 on: November 05, 2001, 11:00:00 PM »
Hat Trick and IK ! I think I am having a flashback.   :D

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Offline leonid

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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2001, 11:39:00 PM »
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Originally posted by Frodo:
Hat Trick and IK ! I think I am having a flashback.    :D

Frodo

A dang VVS flashback  :D

How ya doing, HT?   :)
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Offline SOB

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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2001, 11:58:00 PM »
Otter, you handsomehunk!  Oooold punted threads are very confusing just after you wake up, and I just did!   :D


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Offline DanielMcIntyre

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« Reply #27 on: November 06, 2001, 02:06:00 AM »
MAC players LOL, I hope your not serious?
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Offline Gadfly

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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2001, 05:29:00 AM »
And now throw in WWIIOL.  No icons to speak of, a live groundwar under you and always the nagging question in the back of your mind, "Did I shoot that guy down?"

We are indeed lucky to have all of the choices we have.  Vive la differance!
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Offline Duckwing6

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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2001, 06:09:00 AM »
No gadfly ..in  WW2OL it's kindda like that:

What's that over there??!!! oh a bush...

What's THAT over there?!!! oh a telephone line..

40-50 minutes later:

OH MY GOD ANOTHER HUMAN BEING !!! Come over my friend i want to shake your hand i havn't seen anyone in such a long time !
BOOM
Want to exit your vehice ?
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Cheers
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