I wish I saw that program. I have the Disc Wings Ch and I'm sure I'll see it at some point. But some of those numbers are odd and I don't know what to make of them. It sounds like they are survival ratios rather than kill ratios as Hyena interprets. Still, that's a hard thing to quantify because the threats and tactics changed so much. Shoot, from most of 1968-1972 there were no missions into North Vietnam and so right there the chances of survival would have increased.
<~~thats pretty much what i was tring to say,,with out having to type it all,,very well put:)
on the history channel is were i got that info,,i was watching it one day,,and it had mig and saber pilots talking,,and all the mig pilots said there plane was better and got more kills,,and the saber pilots said the same thing,,,on the show they determed it was pretty equal fights,,,sabers little faster,,but didnt clime as good or turn as well,,but usa had better trained pilots over all then the korean's had,,besides the russian pilots on loan to them<~~very good pilots,,,some mean jet battles over there,,some of the dog fight footage is wild:D
