Sink The Bismark!

[milnko]

Tonight on the History Channel @ 8:00pm

Tomorrow on the History Channel @ 8:00 they send robotic cameras down to the wreckage of the Bismark.

[T0J0]

Bump!!!

[sling322]

A friend of mine was telling me that he saw an article in Time or Newsweek ( I dont remember which) about this Bismark show.  Apparently, some folks believe after seeing the footage shot by Cameron's crew that the Bismark may have been scuttled rather than sank by the Brits.

 I hope to get home in time to watch this tonight.  But, if I recall correctly, I thought it was on The Discovery Channel at 8pm not the History Channel.

[Ouch]

Originally posted by sling322
Apparently, some folks believe after seeing the footage shot by Cameron's crew that the Bismark may have been scuttled rather than sank by the Brits.

Umm, so what??

My response is, two japanese carriers at Midway were "sunk" by Japanese torpedoes to keep them out of US hands.  The yorktown was sunk by torpedoes from a US destroyer for the same reason.

The ship was rendered combat ineffective by the barrage of gunfire and torpedoes of the British fleet, and it really doesn't matter much if the German Captain pulled the plug, or if the British shells sank her.

She was 'sunk' by the British in either case.  (man I just hate some of these history revisions.)

Ouch out

[Slash27]

Freakin' Texans always so damned wound up!:D  Wasnt there surviviors that could clarify what happened?  Guess Ill just watch the show.

[tically2]

A couple survivors reported that they flooded all the quads of the ship and also set for charges to go off while going down before they made their way to the deck to abandon ship.  The british shot over something like 2000 shells at the ship and a total of over 400 made hits to the ship but the Bismark was still afloat.  They then decided to fire three torps at the Bis but the torps never made it because it began to sink.

Watched the show last night on Hist channel while scanning channels at 12:00 am was a great show and had some survivors of the bismark as well as guys who served on the Hood and some other counts of the action from other members aboard other ships as well as some british biplanes who made torp drops  etc..  Definitely watch the show pretty good and informative

[tically2]

Oh either way if the germans didn't flood the qaudrants the British were definitely going to finish her off so either way I would say the British sank the ship.

Carry on...

[Eagler]

Originally posted by tically2
....  The british shot over something like 2000 shells at the ship and a total of over 400 made hits to the ship but the Bismark was still afloat. ....

this is because the hits were not within the 10 minute time period, everyone knows that

they'd never win a $100 with shooting like that

[Engine]

I caught a bit of it myself, fascinating stuff.  Still can't grasp that of the over 1000 men on the Hood, only 3 survived.

[rod367th]

Watch the show you will see ack from ships was not good or even close to being good. AH has lazer ack at cv's, Bismark couldn't shoot down ww1 planes that took out its controls. BISMARK fired every round of ack it had not one plane was shoot down and only 3 were even hit. AND these were ww1 planes lol

[milnko]

Originally posted by sling322
But, if I recall correctly, I thought it was on The Discovery Channel at 8pm not the History Channel.

My bad. Your absolutely correct.

[sling322]

Heh...just trying to make sure that folks were tuned into the right channel.  Leave it to an ASSassin to spread mis-information.  

[Angus]

From my information the Bismarck was hit about 700 times. The 1st hit was the most crucial, a 16 inc shell from the much smaller 1920's built British battleship HMS Nelson (or was it Rodney, - anyway, Nelson class) penetrated and detonated in the midship sector, depriving the Bismarck from further advanced gunnery control. After that, the Bismarck got shot up totally, while as shooting back, hitting none of the British.
Ballard's examination of the wreck did not reveal why the Bismarck went down, but as he put it: it did not really matter, it would only have been a matter of time, ot rather, not IF, but WHEN.
Now, regarding the ack speculations, quite truly, the British Swordfishes were able to drop their torpedoes at the Bismarck and emerge from the flak barricade mostly unharmed. (BTW, the Swordfish was NOT a WWI plane, however a fabric covered biplane).  Bismarck's problem with hitting the planes was noting unique, - an attack from so low altitude is hard to stop, for so many of the AA guns can not point at their target. I belive that the Americanes also had their share of hard times against incoming "Kates".
Now that is all different in AH. Damned ack toasts you on the deck at whatever speed and angle.....

[Creamo]

HBO tonight is doing a special on Nevada Cat Houses. Namely the Moonlight Bunny Ranch which when I went there with my friends and opted to stay at the bar, got thrown out for calling the madamn(spelling?) a hideous hag. (She was.)

Should be interesting if they show the parking lot I spent a hour in freezing me nads off. I know it well.

If you've got a credit card, it's all there for the asking at the Moonlite Bunny Ranch! This eye-opening documentary visits this legal Nevada brothel where "It's not just sex--it's an adventure." Interviews with the Ranch's employees and management are spiced up with sizzling footage from hidden cameras that capture intimate moments as red-blooded, law-abiding Americans live out their fantasies with beautiful working girls. Some segments that are featured include a mother who brings her 22-year-old son to be deflowered; a couple who yearns for a little extramarital action; and two brothers who hope to live out their porn-star fantasies

PS- Hi SOB

[davidpt40]

I realize war is brutal and harsh, but some of the stuff the british sailors did to the Bismark survivors was downright mean.  Quite a few Bismark sailors, within a few meters of British ships, drowned because no life lines were lowered.  Finally some survivors were picked up.  One german sailor, who had both arms blown off, grabbed onto a rope with only his teeth (I swear I'm not making this up), he was pulled half-way up the ship then he fell off and drowned.