Author Topic: A request for the Ar234.  (Read 280 times)

Offline Beefcake

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A request for the Ar234.
« on: December 10, 2002, 01:30:52 PM »
Why not give the Ar234 the old Pre 1.10 bombsite? I mean, IMHO, the AR234 really isn't worth it's perk cost now and giving it back the ablity to hit things with the old laser site would make it well worth the 60 point price tag.
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Offline Wotan

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A request for the Ar234.
« Reply #1 on: December 10, 2002, 01:56:10 PM »
Heres my reply from another thread
From this thread......

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=71329

There are only 2 multi eng bombers in AH that are capable of dive attacks. The ju88 and the 234. Neither of these are modeled with thier "glide/dive" bomb sites. In the case of the 234 its completely wrong in how its level bomb site works as well.

Heres 2 large images of the 234 cockpit. This shows you the eye piece of the periscope site which was used as a shallow dive bomb site. The pilot would drop from 5000 to 1500 meters (16,404 ft to 4921ft).

http://www.il2center.com/Reference/Bulk/LW%20Ar-234%20Bomber/ar234b-front-hq.jpg

This shows the level bomb site (Lotfe 7K). The pilot would put the 234 on auto pilot and rotatate the control yoke out of the way. Read below for the procedure

http://www.il2center.com/Reference/Bulk/LW%20Ar-234%20Bomber/ar234b-hq.jpg

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When operated as a bomber, the Ar-234 could be used in shallow dive attacks, low-level horizontal attacks, or high-altitude horizontal attacks. In shallow dive attacks, the pilot would drop from about 5,000 meters to under 1,500 meters, aiming the bombs through the periscopic sight that stuck up above the cockpit.

In low-level horizontal attack, used only when the target was obscured, the pilot simply flew level and dropped the bombs when it seemed appropriate. Results were not generally very impressive.

High-altitude horizontal attacks were particularly interesting. Since the Ar-234 was a single-seat aircraft, the pilot had to double as the bombardier, and did so with the help of a sophisticated Patin autopilot system. The pilot would fly to within about 30 kilometers of the target, engage the autopilot, swivel the control column out of his way to the right, and then lean over and sight the target through the Lotfe 7K bombsight.

The bombsight was linked to the autopilot. As long as the pilot held the target in the crosshairs, the autopilot would change the aircraft's heading accordingly, and then the bombsight would automatically drop the bombs at the right moment.


The way the arado bombing is modelled in ah its completely worthless. I can bomb with the level site pretty easily but in order to get good hits on a twn it either takes multiple passes salvoing 1 bomb (3 with drones) at a time or reducing speed to get a tighter group.

The ju88 is missing its dive bomb site as well

http://www.il2center.com/Reference/Bulk/LW%20Ju-88%20Bomber/Ju88_divebombing_mech_computer_1943-44.tif

http://www.il2center.com/Reference/Bulk/LW%20Ju-88%20Bomber/Ju88_divebombing_computer_principle.tif

Heres 2 images that show how the procedure.

http://www.il2center.com/Reference/Bulk/LW%20Ju-88%20Bomber/Ju88_flowchart_divebombing.tif

http://www.il2center.com/Reference/Bulk/LW%20Ju-88%20Bomber/Ju88_operations_divebombing.tif

Offline Ecliptik

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A request for the Ar234.
« Reply #2 on: December 13, 2002, 05:54:40 PM »
Neat, I didn't know that about the Arado.  I think it might be worth using if it had that proper auto-pilot/sight thing.

Offline BenDover

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A request for the Ar234.
« Reply #3 on: December 14, 2002, 12:31:09 PM »
yeah, and add the drag chute for landings