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Offline Asmodan PL

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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2001, 01:48:00 AM »
bring Spit XIV and perk it   i don`t mind just give me faster SPIT !!!!!  

Funked im with U !

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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2001, 02:05:00 AM »
Agree with Funked ...

 
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2001, 02:42:00 AM »
 
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Fw 190D-9
P-51D
La-7
Me 109G-10
Typhoon IB
N1K2-J

Dont forget the Yak9u and the P47D30 (Unless you fix the loadouts  )

Personally I would have no problem with neither of those planes perked, or with all of them perked. I like the late 1944 planeset and so I think that with a fixed FM N1K2, wich would not need perking, we would be right on spot as we are now.

But if you take all those as cheap perks....well, I wont have a problem either. But then the Chog would have to cost more than 8 perkies, right?  


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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2001, 02:50:00 AM »
Take the typhoon off that list, and everything will be peachy.

BTW, I think it very strange that so much scrutiny is paid to Allied planes with the conclusion that they are over-modelled, yet the LW modelling is assumed to be spot on or actually below the real-life performance.

If the roll-rate of the tiffie is changed, then lets have the hellcat's low speed handling looked at (it should be better than it is), bomb and rocket racks added to the Lavochkins and Yaks.

The collective chip on the shoulder of the LWabble gets bigger all the time.  

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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2001, 03:05:00 AM »
 
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Take the typhoon off that list, and everything will be peachy.

Perk it and add a 1943 Typhoon, not the late 1944 we have now.  

 
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BTW, I think it very strange that so much scrutiny is paid to Allied planes with the conclusion that they are over-modelled, yet the LW modelling is assumed to be spot on or actually below the real-life performance.

If the roll-rate of the tiffie is changed, then lets have the hellcat's low speed handling looked at (it should be better than it is), bomb and rocket racks added to the Lavochkins and Yaks.

I agree with all you say. The Hellcat stall is definitely weird (had the chance to experience it first-hand in a scenario last week). And the Soviet fighters need the A/G loadouts they lack now.


 
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The collective chip on the shoulder of the LWabble gets bigger all the time.  


See? I think that you can't make a single post without ruining it with this kind of crap...what was a perfectly good post is turned into another insult.

So typical...

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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2001, 06:37:00 AM »
I don't fly c-hog. But now that they're perked, we all just lost some easy kills. C-Hog drivers gonna be too afraid to engage anything now.

The other point I want to make is that this looks like the beginning od a slippery slope at the end of which everything worth flying is gonna be perked.  We gonna end up with a situation where a newbie gonna have to learn the ropes in a 202 cause he can't afford anything else. Also some people couldn't care less about their perk points score so still expect c-hogs to keep HO'ing.

I really am sick of machoistic whining about uber planes. If ya think a plane is too uber then fly it.  Would a Formula 1 racing driver refuse to drive a car cause he thinks it's too good?  I don't think so!

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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2001, 06:58:00 AM »
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2001, 07:16:00 AM »
Anytime a top 300 pilot flies a fighter it should cost him perk points.  It should be a progressive system,just like taxes, the better pilot you are the more perkies it should cost to fly a fighter.

Perking planes isn't the answer, but perking the pilots will balance the arena and make it fair for us dweebs.  I know by your posts that fairness is what you really want,right?

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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2001, 07:33:00 AM »
 
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Anytime a top 300 pilot flies a fighter it should cost him perk points.  It should be a progressive system,just like taxes, the better pilot you are the more perkies it should cost to fly a fighter.

Perking planes isn't the answer, but perking the pilots will balance the arena and make it fair for us dweebs.  I know by your posts that fairness is what you really want,right?

A Big-Spoon production  

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That's why I've stated rank/score has to be a factor into perking.
If that won't happen, I'll go along with funks list. They need to be more than "7" points though or else the newbies will be the only ones NOT being able to fly them.

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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2001, 08:07:00 AM »
<sigh> RAM - I might just have been joking.

Because, as much as it may be a surprise to you, I for one see this as a GAME.

I play it for FUN.

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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2001, 08:10:00 AM »
Agree with funked!

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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2001, 08:26:00 AM »
BAD BAD BAD IDEA

What the hell does perking the entire<er most> plane set do for anyone?  What about the new guys??  They walk into the MA and find out HEY! you cant fly the p51, LA7,G10 bla bla bla!!! They turn around and leave.  Starting out at a disadvantage in AH, with the learning curve as high as it is could prove disasterious.

Totally defeats the system.  

The perk system will make more sense when new perk rides become availble.  F8F BABY, BRing  it on!

No problem with the chog perk, it was a rare bird in ww2 and deserves to be perked.  It's a big bad bellybutton bird that everyone likes.  I am PROUND OF YOU BIG BLUE! Ya made to the perk-o-fame.

Now bring that Me-262 and the krauts will have a bird worthy of perk status.

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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2001, 08:34:00 AM »
What Hooligan said.  Best idea on the boards.

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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2001, 08:34:00 AM »
this is all a little confusing to me.  

Are planes perked because of their ability (K/D) or their popularity (usefulness)?

If it is popularity, as it appears is the case, then the 1C will be perked in the "cv" arena and not in the "uterus" arena?

"perking" planes is a reward for P51 and D9 lovers because they are good boys and fly boring planes?

If anything is perked it should be simply speed.

perhaps it is time to just fix the arena and get rid of the whole convoluted perk monster thing.

I could fly a -1C against newbies and less skilled guys for the rest of my career if i really wanted to.   I don't see how that makes the arena any better.
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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2001, 08:40:00 AM »
I have siad before that perking SOME aircraft adds to a more diverse arena, planes like the temp and the other new aircraft that are perked, but to go back and perk alot of the aircraft we allready have would be quite detrimental.

Reason i say this is that, as i have said in my other post, i have ony just came to AH from WB's in the past couple of months, i did come here before but the learning curve i found to be really steap so i gacve up after my 2 week trial.

What brought me back to try again, succeed in cracking the games flight model and staying puting 30 bucks in to AH account every month was the diversity of the game, the ammount of options i had to choose from and the large and diffrent selection of aircraft to choose from.

Had half the aircraft would have been perked at the time i wouldnt even concider making an effort in a game that requiers such a high learning curve and at the same time demanded me to be a good shot to fly any of the decent planes and i know this applies to alot of other newbies.

Money is what will keep this game going and going and have more and more updates, special with the likes of WWII onlinwe on the horizon.

If you make this game to ELITEest you will be closeing the door to alot of new blood and extra revenue.

You may be S**t hot and demand a more trying eviroment but it will be no good if the numbers dwindle and new blood is hard to come by because many people are turning away for a more aprocherble sim.

i think AH is great, it has so much apeal at the moment, perking like mad will be a signiture on the death warrent of AH.

my 2 cents