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Offline Citabria

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Combat theatre has become more interesting than the Main Arena
« on: December 16, 2002, 03:37:54 AM »
not for the masses mind you. they are still thrilled with that hamster wheel of theirs.
but since the latest maps have been added to the combat theatre the MA has become a stale environment in comparison for a great many long time players who are still too addicted to quit.

the main factor in this seems to be the objective of the players in the little arena. their objective is dogfighting. since theres usually no more than 40 people max most will switch sides quickly to keep the fight balanced and fun. you will see ground vehicles bombers and occasional jabo fighters sure enough, but base capture and killing ground targets in this place is not a high priority for most. what does get most players attention in the ct is dogfighting. not the ma style kill the field with numbers and kill the survivors. the kind of fight that dosn't happen in the immediate vicinity of the airfield is the kind thats more satisfying.

perhaps the fewer numbers and historic opposition is the cause of this. all I know is the darbars stay pretty even and the fights are in the air against opponents that ussually prefer to fight, not run.

I was playing the ct earlier then left and checked in to the ma. all i saw in the ma was lopsided darbars of either all green or all red. all fighting (if you can call it that) was taking place over an airfield.
whatever you call what the MA is it isnt as much fun as what I call dogfighting in a fight that is not one sided.
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« Reply #1 on: December 16, 2002, 05:22:27 AM »
Agree to 100%! Looking forward to seeing you in the CT once I get my new computer :)

Haven't seen any of the new maps, are they good? Historical?
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« Reply #2 on: December 16, 2002, 05:32:47 AM »
Hamster Wheel ..  The MA ?

Hahahaha... YOU'RE RIGHT!  (never thought of it that way)

When one actually sets his/her mouse cursor on the spot where the "launch/re-spawn" button WILL BE when they're shot-down,, so that they can mindlessly click on it and rush back into the 20 v 2 furball..  I guess it's a "hamster wheel"

Squeek~  Squeek!  Chirp-Squeek..

Maybe time for change..  (change is good! says Cheryl Crowe)

Good one!


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« Reply #3 on: December 16, 2002, 05:58:42 AM »
Been thinkin this for the past year!

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Offline oboe

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« Reply #4 on: December 16, 2002, 06:59:50 AM »
Citabria is right on.     Its never too hard to find a fight, and a few people do run other kinds of missions too.  

The CT has benefitted greatly from the new maps its been getting.   Sometimes its just fun to login and fly around admiring the mapmaker's work.      The skins look awesome too.

The FinRus map is the best I've seen so far, and has a nice planeset.
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« Reply #5 on: December 16, 2002, 07:38:45 AM »
The FinRus map is awesome, but what I like most about the map are the new airfields.
No runways, only a dirt/grass field surrounded by trees to take off from - very immersive :)
plus the custom skins/insigna on the planes...

A big to the designers :)
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Offline ra

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« Reply #6 on: December 16, 2002, 07:50:41 AM »
I agree, this map is the best ever, by far.  HTC should make a Brewster just to reward the mapmaker for his efforts.
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Offline Curval

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« Reply #7 on: December 16, 2002, 08:04:31 AM »
Trouble is, guys like you are flying in there Fester...how am I going to get my "sneak up from behind when the noob isn't paying attention" kills?;)
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« Reply #8 on: December 16, 2002, 08:28:07 AM »
This kind of thread is older than AH itself.

First, you start off basically insulting the MA and all who play in it, then you try and sell the CT.   If it was so great, it would sell itself.

Want to keep it like it is?  Dont try and sell it.  If everyone jumped over, it would just be a renamed MA.  Ever think of that?

The one element typical in the sales jobs, and at least Muckmaw remembered to add, it the "elite" pilot BS.   Ya know "the best, the pros, the elite" pilots fly there stuff.

If you enjoy it, great, thats what this is all about.  If I want to fly for long periods barely finding a fight, I will stick with that god awful pizza map.


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« Reply #9 on: December 16, 2002, 09:03:38 AM »
I am starting to move towards the CT Darkside myself....
 Since the contest started the MA has changed IMHO..
 Cant put my finger on what exactly changed? its just an impression I have recieved over the last 2 weeks...
 And I dont care for what the MA has turned into... The CT has a more friendly audience.. And you better use the check six button
 or prepar to get yelled at!! LOL

T0J0
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Offline Toad

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« Reply #10 on: December 16, 2002, 09:16:58 AM »
Dago, basically it's just that time of the month again I think.

Better marketing this time overall, though. Muck sorta fell out of line and lo and behold there, behind the curtain, was the same old stuff.

It's cyclical like a HO thread or a Chute Shooter thread.
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« Reply #11 on: December 16, 2002, 09:49:14 AM »
Ah the world of cynics. This is not a sales job. Quite frankly, I could care less whether you guys try it or not.

I am simply reporting what I saw from the point of view of a dedicated Main Arena player, in an effort to let some of the new pilots, and veterans for that matter, be aware that there is a great alternative to the main. If someone told me in detail what the CT offered, I would have tried it some time ago.

Try it if you'd like. Don't bother if your happy. *shrugs* Either way, it does not put a dime in my pocket.

As for the bit about the better pilots being in there, that's not a selling point. That's a detraction, friend. 2 words fellas. FESTER and SHANE. There's no newbie kills to be had here. Every pilot I engaged knew what he was doing, leading to some long fought battles, of which I lost most. I sure would rather get easy kills, but the challenge of fighting someone like Fester is more enticing to me at this time. If the numbers in CT stay at 40 or so when I can find a good fight, that's where I'm flying. If they drop to old levels, it's the MA for me.

So play the main. Play the CT. Play HTH. Play with yourself. I could not care less.


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« Reply #12 on: December 16, 2002, 09:55:19 AM »
Well I just had an MA moment in the CT today....  One of those brave MA heroes who only knows how to make lazy HO passes then extend 5k even when he had the faster plane and alt advantage... Yea....  :mad:   Otherwise this current CT setup is making AH fun again!
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« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2002, 10:13:31 AM »
I think what also contributes to the great gameplay in the CT with the Finland/Russia map is the balanced plane sets - a mixture of German, Allied, and Soviet aircraft - and the fact that the availability of any particular aircraft is limited to certain fields.  That certainly makes base captures more challenging, but also helps control the dogfights.  LA-5 vs 109, 109 vs FW190, 190 vs Spitfire, Yak vs Hurricane, FM2 vs LA-5... some great matchups there, with none of the uber planes such as the LA-7 there to swing the balance of power either way.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2002, 10:21:08 AM »
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Originally posted by robsan
The FinRus map is awesome, but what I like most about the map are the new airfields.
No runways, only a dirt/grass field surrounded by trees to take off from - very immersive :)
plus the custom skins/insigna on the planes...

A big to the designers :)


There I was with a dead-engine LA-5, trying to coast into the field.  Where the heck is the runway?  All I see is dirt.  Oh wait, there are some buildings and the map says its the airfield, ok, bleed off some speed, wiggle the rudder, drop the flaps, not sure where the runway is because its all just a big open field.  Ok, just drop it down somewhere in the square and I'll be fine.  Altitude falling, speed dropping, gear down, gonna be a bit fast and I'm short of the field but I'll coast it in, but ....look out for the trees!  Kick the rudder hard right, right gear bouncing, left bouncing, straighten her out quick!  Large tin building on the left, oaks and sycamores on the right.  Right wing hits a tree, left wing hits the building, Ivan rolls the fire trucks and I'm back in the tower.

Gotta love those un-hardened Soviet forward airbases. :)
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