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Offline SOB

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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2002, 05:47:39 PM »
Damn, that sucks for you AG.  If I were you, I'd cancel my account pronto!


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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2002, 05:56:44 PM »
I think a lot of work went into coding things that aren't as obvious as a new plane.

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Made improvements to the network smoothing code and raised the packet rate for very close targets


This game was already the best I'd seen in that department and now it'll be even better.

I'll take that over another aircraft.

As for minor bugs, these guys also have the best record for squashing them as fast as possible. I'll trust them to do that again.

You know, as this program keeps getting larger, revising it IS going to take more time and present more opportunities for bugs to creep in.
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2002, 06:09:16 PM »
MY GOD.....I cant believe the WHINING!......

HITECH...GREAT JOB WITH YOUR PATCH!!!!!!!!!!


Hey if you dont like the patch.....Make your own patch to help the guys at HiTechCreations out.

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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2002, 06:16:25 PM »
Sachs, with all respect, HTC has been known to take baby steps to achieve great future additions...this is one of them.  I'd rather have small releases every 3 months or so and prevent programmer burn out than get everything in one shot.  4 years of programming the same sim and they're still coming back to put out more...thats fine with me, no matter what size.

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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2002, 06:21:33 PM »
ju87 has almost 4000 lbs of ord, bye bye hangers. the smoothing and increased packets for close in shooting for dweebs like me that cant hit anything!
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2002, 06:30:55 PM »
As ripsnort has already said, this patch is a quality improvement that will allow for both better gameplay and future additions.

Many game companies never get to the point of instituting the kind of Quality Control that is 2nd nature to HTC because the publisher has either pulled the plug on the game because it lost money (like 98% of games do) or they are too busy working on the next title.

The overall tone of the vocal minoroty is that they didn't get their special tweak, GV, or aircraft, so they are "disappointed".

How well do YOU cope with negative feedback, or criticism that damns with faint praise?

Constructive criticism is listened to by the HTC crew and generally acted on. A lot of the stuff in this patch is to address issues the vocal minority raised. Well you got some of the things you wanted at the expense of other issues being left to later versions.

I shall now peform my own personality deconstruction to save you all the effort of typing angry judgemental responses

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Offline guttboy

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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2002, 06:32:43 PM »
Nice Post Palef.......

PS dont make fun of sheep or goats....LOL

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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2002, 06:58:40 PM »
palef hits  it on the head:D

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« Reply #23 on: December 16, 2002, 07:03:43 PM »
Please DON'T make your own patch...  That's a good way to get banned :eek:
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« Reply #24 on: December 16, 2002, 07:09:12 PM »
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Sachs, with all respect, HTC has been known to take baby steps to achieve great future additions...this is one of them.  I'd rather have small releases every 3 months or so and prevent programmer burn out than get everything in one shot.  4 years of programming the same sim and they're still coming back to put out more...thats fine with me, no matter what size.


Agree here. 1.10 was very alarming, 1.11 is stable and promising. Knowing that AH is pure C, and around 400k LOC, I was afraid that AH is close to its structural limits, at which new bugs are there faster, than old one removed.

It is quite possible that some part of mission arena and mission arena planeset additions are ready already, and 1.12 is 3 months or less. IMO 1.12 shall be fast after 1.11, and shall not be a major release, but the one which will add new content to 1.11 release.

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« Reply #25 on: December 16, 2002, 08:20:45 PM »
I think its plainly obvious that theres been a lot of work on the coding to do with the performance of the game rather than eye candy or loads of aircraft.

Now that the bad warping behaviour that seemed to come with 1.10 has seemingly been reduced to a minimum I predict that HTC will concentrate on the additional model aspects of their programming, ie adding new aircraft and features.

I must admit i was a lil' disapointed at the aircraft line up but only because i have been spoiled in the past by quite large numbers of new planes and vehicles.The only thing that was suprising for me was the lack of sherman M4.I thought that was coming for sure? Dunno where i got that idea but i thought id read it on here.

I think that the mission theatre has also taken up a lot of the development time but i for one would not want to wait any longer for it to be finished and have it delay what we have now with 1.11.Over christmas we have new aircraft to mess around with.

1.12 is bound to be a lot shorter than 1.11 in development. If only because they have already done a lot of work on one of the next features (ie mission arena)

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« Reply #26 on: December 16, 2002, 08:45:41 PM »
Of all the asinine posts and whines I have read on this board, I gotta say this is pretty damn close to being the best.

WTG Sachs, you have cracked the top 5!  You are now in the league of such greats as RAM and Mandoble!

Now, maybe I have seen too many X-Files episodes, but is it just me or are all the really classic whiners LW fans?  Talk about a conspiracy.

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« Reply #27 on: December 16, 2002, 08:48:23 PM »
What is wrong with this new version?
What is wrong with the whiners is perhaps a better question.

FIRSTLY
We got the Stuka. Slow and vulnerable as in RL, but packs a deadly bombload. Also turns well. Been whined for and asked for since the beginning of AH. And the artwork is really nice.
Also, a must for CT and such. BoB, Desert wars, Eastern front etc

We have the Kate. No MA stuff, but a cutie and a must for scenarios.

We have the 163. Yeahhh. Did you try that thing! WOW
Very good for defending HQ. And only available for that, not to spoil gameplay

We have a new MUSTANG, all nice.

And then we have a killer Tank...the Tiger!!!!!!!!!!
Finally something to do with the GV perks

Plus some graphical goodies...gun flashes...

SECONDLY
I think we have the biggest lot of fixes yet in one go. This will elliminate a lot of whines, - that is to say, whines that were correct. Hurray for that!
Besides, those fixes are more or less all pointed at by US, the community of customers!!!!


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Next version is presumably very close. Remember that some things were supposed to be in this patch, but were postponed in order not to delay it beyond Xmas (I presume).
A most exciting thing there is the new mission arena, but I would not be surprized if HTC had some other trump cards in their sleeve.....

FINALLY.
Be happy. This is a great update, and a good and merry XMAS to HTC!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:) :) :) :) :) :) :)
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« Reply #28 on: December 16, 2002, 08:54:37 PM »
Well Written ANGUS!

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« Reply #29 on: December 16, 2002, 09:28:11 PM »
IMHO

It's very painful but HTC would have to switch for the new game engine (AH 2.0) sooner or later. So the implementation of new planes right now is a wasting of time and resources of their small development team because the new engine sure requires new 3D artworks for all the planes and new flight models.