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Offline Rude

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« Reply #45 on: December 17, 2002, 03:41:09 PM »
Nice dodge Weazel...you wouldn't be one of those guys who criticizes everything and everyone, yet never offers a viable alternative would ya?

If Bush is the Anti-Christ, who would you in your wisdom, choose to replace him?

A real answer would be nice this time:)

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Colin Powell...but what's the point Rude.
« Reply #46 on: December 18, 2002, 12:27:22 AM »
No matter who I choose, 3rd world cretins like grunherz, or liars like john9001 will take another shot at insulting me for my choice.

I'm not ashamed to be an American...however I AM ashamed of all those who feel that having a deserter as president...a president who surrounds himself with criminals from previous administrations is acceptable or desireable.

There's nothing about the current administration that should make anyone "proud to be an American."

It should make us all hang our heads in shame to be lead by a low life white trash deserter who's never done an honest day of work in his life...one who couldn't even complete a tour in the National Guard during wartime...the very tour that kept him from combat duty.

This really is my last word in the O'Club...the back slapping mutual admiration society of republican dittoheads has won the war of words...your illusions are still intact...find another whipping boy.

I have come to recognize that you can lead a person to knowledge...but you can't make him think...and reality as I see it is that many dittoheads are content to allow others to think for them....

Thrawn, I never claimed to "represent" liberals, my opinions are my own.

Don't sweat it kieran, your still one of the good guys.

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« Reply #47 on: December 18, 2002, 12:55:08 AM »
A 3rd world cretin!  Thats great wiezelle, how's the packing going for your trip to sweden?

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« Reply #48 on: December 18, 2002, 01:24:27 AM »
Shhhhhhh he's busy signalling morse code to his Swedish Intel contact.

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« Reply #49 on: December 18, 2002, 01:33:11 AM »
LOL  :D

I'm picking it up on my GOP Black Helicopter scanner...

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« Reply #50 on: December 18, 2002, 01:46:16 AM »
Operation CHIMPLER SUPRIZE

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« Reply #51 on: December 18, 2002, 01:51:55 AM »
Jawohl!

The ninjas are fast-roping on wiezelle's safehouse as we speak...

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« Reply #52 on: December 18, 2002, 07:11:48 AM »
Weazel, come back. I enjoy your perspective.

And he has a point. A lot of Republicans were making comments much worse than his during Clintons presidency.

Bush's papers regarding his service disappeared, leaving no proof whether he went AWOL or not. He's hiring convicted criminals...or at least convicted liars. That much is not disputable.

And his harsh words are just a mirror of some words that were said during the Clinton administration by reps here.  So in a way his crowned 'dittoheads' are as much critisixing themselvesd as weazel when they call 'im names :).

This is good stuff, this :D

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« Reply #53 on: December 18, 2002, 07:25:41 AM »
I'd agree, different perspectives are always needed. I'd also agree I was as pissed as anyone could be by Clinton, and made no secret about it.

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« Reply #54 on: December 18, 2002, 08:26:40 AM »
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Weazel, come back. I enjoy your perspective.

And he has a point. A lot of Republicans were making comments much worse than his during Clintons presidency.

This is good stuff, this :D



Yea I remember all those Clinton is Hitler posts and seemingly serious accusations about a dictatorship.

Wiezelle has shown his true colors and they are yellow and blue, off to sweden you go....

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Just when you thought it was over!
« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2002, 10:45:48 AM »
More news on the Bush administrations efforts:
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WASHINGTON, DC—Flanked by key members of Congress and his administration, President Bush approved Monday a streamlined version of the Bill of Rights that pares its 10 original amendments down to a "tight, no-nonsense" six.

A Republican initiative that went unopposed by congressional Democrats, the revised Bill of Rights provides citizens with a "more manageable" set of privacy and due-process rights by eliminating four amendments and condensing and/or restructuring five others. The Second Amendment, which protects the right to keep and bear arms, was the only article left unchanged.

Calling the historic reduction "a victory for America," Bush promised that the new document would do away with "bureaucratic impediments to the flourishing of democracy at home and abroad."

"It is high time we reaffirmed our commitment to this enduring symbol of American ideals," Bush said. "By making the Bill of Rights a tool for progress instead of a hindrance to freedom, we honor the true spirit of our nation's forefathers."

The Fourth Amendment, which long protected citizens' homes against unreasonable search and seizure, was among the eliminated amendments. Also stricken was the Ninth Amendment, which stated that the enumeration of certain Constitutional rights does not result in the abrogation of rights not mentioned.

"Quite honestly, I could never get my head around what the Ninth Amendment meant anyway," said outgoing House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R-TX), one of the leading advocates of the revised Bill of Rights. "So goodbye to that one."

Amendments V through VII, which guaranteed the right to legal counsel in criminal cases, and guarded against double jeopardy, testifying against oneself, biased juries, and drawn-out trials, have been condensed into Super-Amendment V: The One About Trials.

Attorney General John Ashcroft hailed the slimmed-down Bill of Rights as "a positive step."

"Go up to the average citizen and ask them what's in the Bill of Rights," Ashcroft said. "Chances are, they'll have only a vague notion. They just know it's a set of rules put in place to protect their individual freedoms from government intrusion, and they assume that's a good thing."
Above: Bush works on revisions to the Bill of Rights.
Above: Bush works on revisions to the Bill of Rights.

Ashcroft responded sharply to critics who charge that the Bill of Rights no longer safeguards certain basic, inalienable rights.

"We're not taking away personal rights; we're increasing personal security," Ashcroft said. "By allowing for greater government control over the particulars of individual liberties, the Bill of Rights will now offer expanded personal freedoms whenever they are deemed appropriate and unobtrusive to the activities necessary to effective operation of the federal government."

Ashcroft added that, thanks to several key additions, the Bill of Rights now offers protections that were previously lacking, including the right to be protected by soldiers quartered in one's home (Amendment III), the guarantee that activities not specifically delegated to the states and people will be carried out by the federal government (Amendment VI), and freedom of Judeo-Christianity and non-combative speech (Amendment I).

According to U.S. Sen. Larry Craig (R-ID), the original Bill of Rights, though well-intentioned, was "seriously outdated."

"The United States is a different place than it was back in 1791," Craig said. "As visionary as they were, the framers of the Constitution never could have foreseen, for example, that our government would one day need to jail someone indefinitely without judicial review. There was no such thing as suspicious Middle Eastern immigrants back then."

Ashcroft noted that recent FBI efforts to conduct investigations into "unusual activities" were severely hampered by the old Fourth Amendment.

"The Bill of Rights was written more than 200 years ago, long before anyone could even fathom the existence of wiretapping technology or surveillance cameras," Ashcroft said. "Yet through a bizarre fluke, it was still somehow worded in such a way as to restrict use of these devices. Clearly, it had to go before it could do more serious damage in the future."

The president agreed.

"Any machine, no matter how well-built, periodically needs a tune-up to keep it in good working order," Bush said. "Now that we have the bugs worked out of the ol' Constitution, she'll be purring like a kitten when Congress reconvenes in January—just in time to work on a new round of counterterrorism legislation."

"Ten was just too much of a handful," Bush added. "Six civil liberties are more than enough."
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