Author Topic: Tiger A Little Fast? (Read 1167 times)

Jester · « **on:** December 18, 2002, 11:44:30 PM »

Isn't the TIGER 1 a "little" fast? I drove it tonight and noticed it had the same top speed as the PANZER IV - 25mph.

Not that I am complaining.

Karnak · « **Reply #1 on:** December 19, 2002, 12:28:01 AM »

Its not so much that the Tiger is fast, its that you're realizing how slow the PnZ IV H is.

The PnZ IV H, M4 and Tigers were all about the same at 24-25mph.

The T-34 and Panther V G were much better at about 35mph.

J_A_B · « **Reply #2 on:** December 19, 2002, 12:41:41 AM »

That extra 10 MPH would makew the T-34 a great choice for a second unperked tank

J_A_B

brady · « **Reply #3 on:** December 19, 2002, 03:22:06 AM »

T34/85 armor values:

Hull Front, Upper 45, 90, 47, 60
Hull Front, Lower 45
Hull Sides, Upper 45, 60
Hull Sides, Lower 45
Hull Rear 30, 47, 45

Hull Top 20-23

Hull Bottom 18, 20, 22
Turret Front 55, 90, 45-75
Turret Sides 55, 75
Turret Rear 50, 60, 75

Turret Top 20

Now it does not give angle of slope so those are realy better than they seam.

The realy important figures are the Top Armor ones, with top armor that thick(which is almost the same as the Tigers 25mm) they would be mostly imune from 50cal strafing.

Personaly my only objection the the T34 over the Sherman is the lack of an AA gun, the T 34 is such a better tank, i would realy like to see it over the Sherman, howeaver in AH whear the Plane GV interface is kinda unrealistic the lack of an AA MG might be a bad thing.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #4 on:** December 19, 2002, 07:36:56 AM »

If you want to get technical, its overmodeled for speed across country. It could only attain the speed we have in AH on good roads.
Road 38km/h
Cross-Country 10-20km/h

Wotan · « **Reply #5 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:39:08 AM »

in wbs the terrain adds drag to the vehicles. Unless on prepared surfaces. At a set speed planes get gear damage when off runway.

It would be awesome to add that to AH.

It would be good as well to add gear damage unless on prepared terrrain in excess of a certain speed.

But hey they climb a hill now

Thanks HT..............

Pongo · « **Reply #6 on:** December 19, 2002, 10:57:17 AM »

The T34-85 would be an excellent tank in AH. No AAMG..great flat land speed..a bit bouncy in cross country speed. Not as good a sights as the german tanks but great gun(simular to the Armour piercing capability of the Panzer IVH but with the High Explosive ability of the Tiger I) That dash mobility would be very very interesting...
Very very very pretty tank.

Ripsnort · « **Reply #7 on:** December 19, 2002, 11:02:55 AM »

Agreed! I thought for sure the T-34 would be the next tank, due to our need for it in scenario's.

Karnak · « **Reply #8 on:** December 19, 2002, 08:27:31 PM »

T-34/85 is a very good looking tank. By far the best looking Allied tank of WWII.

Jester · « **Reply #9 on:** December 20, 2002, 12:53:17 AM »

If we gonna have TIGERS running around all over the place I would like to have one of these:

M-36 JACKSON Tank Destroyer
90mm main gun

Jester · « **Reply #10 on:** December 20, 2002, 12:56:05 AM »

OH yea, Karnak the PANTHER was a MUCH better looking tank than the T-34.

emodin · « **Reply #11 on:** December 20, 2002, 01:17:08 AM »

The Jackson (M36) is nice, but it has the problem of an open-top design which would allow all those nasty enemy fighters a chance to kill the gun with straffing passes (killing the crew). And since American Tank Destroyers didn't have that much armor, 20mm cannons would probably eat it for lunch.

If you are looking for a good American tank, I would suggest the Sherman Jumbo 76. It has enough armor to shrug off a lot of damage, and if it came with special AP rounds (APBC/APCR/ect), it would be able to threaten the heavies.

Personally, I'd love to see the T-34/85.

Karnak · « **Reply #12 on:** December 20, 2002, 01:54:17 AM »

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Originally posted by Andijg
OH yea, Karnak the PANTHER was a MUCH better looking tank than the T-34.

I did say Allied tank.

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #13 on:** December 20, 2002, 06:14:10 AM »

There were some 50,000 Shermans in WW2, 200 total were Jumbos and all of them except some 76mm field modified ones had the useless 75mm. Pretty much the only WW2 tank more rare than the 76mm Jumbo is the Maus...

Shiva · « **Reply #14 on:** December 20, 2002, 10:48:04 AM »

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Originally posted by Pongo
The T34-85 would be an excellent tank in AH. No AAMG..great flat land speed..a bit bouncy in cross country speed. Not as good a sights as the german tanks but great gun(simular to the Armour piercing capability of the Panzer IVH but with the High Explosive ability of the Tiger I) That dash mobility would be very very interesting...

And, IIRC, a limitation that it shared with other Russian armor -- only the command vehicles had radios. For example, in 1944, Russia produced 10,449 T-34/85 tanks, but only 134 T-34/85 command tanks; in 1945, production was 12,110 and 140 respectively, and in 1946, production was 22,609 and 274 respectively.

The lack of radios was one of the reasons that the Russian pilots liked the P-39 -- it had four radios; you could keep in touch with your wingmen, your squadron leader, ground control, and ground formations, without having to tune back and forth.