Should the punishment be harsher?

[miko2d]

November 6, University of Mississippi (notable graduate - Trent Lott).

 Three freshmen were accused of scrawling racist graffiti on the doors of two black students in the Oxford campus including phrases: "F*****g N****r" and "F*****g Hoe N****r." They also drew pictures on the walls - a figure hanging from a noose off a tree, also vulgar depictions of genitalia. Total property damage estimated $600.

 The school's president took his time before apologizing for the racial slurs - for which he got blasted by activists. Activists also called for criminally prosecuting the perpetrators under state felony laws.

 Despite that, college will not be bringing criminal charges against the trio. Instead, each suspect faces charges involving five violations of the student code of conduct - not only for the racially explosive vandalism, but also for allegedly making false and misleading statements to investigators. The most serious consequence suspects face is expulsion.

 I am not saying "put them away for life", but isn't some jail time in order - even probation, with a criminal record to remind them for the rest of their lives?

 miko

[GtoRA2]

Make them pay for the damages and file charges for vandalism.


That should be enough.

[miko2d]

GtoRA2: Make them pay for the damages and file charges for vandalism. That should be enough.

 What about distress and mental anguish of the black students? It counts for nothing? Only college property loss?

 Basically, you would say that the perpetrators caused $600 damage by painting an innocent grafitti somewhere out of sight on the college property would be as guilty as those guys that drew scary words/pictures on the people's doors?

 miko

[GtoRA2]

If the black students want to sue over it fine.


What if they had these messages on posters and marched outside the dorm? Same mental anguish, no broken law.


The content of the grafiti should not matter unless it says

"hey we are going to kill you" ETC.

[miko2d]

GtoRA2: If the black students want to sue over it fine.

 There is a good reason why it's the society (state, federal authorities) who is pressing charges in case of a felony - in a person of District Attorney, etc, rather than relying on a victim to do so.

 Relying on a victim for law-enforcement would create immediate motivation for criminals to terrorise victims even further to dissuade them from pressing prosecution.

 Those accused must have some friends on campus. If it's the two poor victims who are held responcible for sending them to jail, rather than the impersonal law - they can be subject for threats and retribution.

 That's pretty much what any rapist says to a raped woman - do not tell the cops or I will kill you or my friends will.

 miko

[gofaster]

Its not a crime to insult somebody.  If it were, Don Rickles would be out of work you billiardball.

[GtoRA2]

If the DA wants to prosecute them for vandalism fine, it's a misdimeaner, fine them and move on.

They are prettythangholes no doubt. But it is just vandalism untell they hurt someone, while hating them.

They have a right to beleive what they do. If the other students think it damaged the somehow they can sue them, thats a civil case about money, not about enforcing the law.

[SOB]

Expell the little tards from school, make 'em pay for the property damages, and put it in their permanant record.  They'll pay plenty from that.

I feel a good beating is also in order, but the black members of that campus will have to organize that for themselves, as the law has no provisions for this.


SOB

[Tumor]

Originally posted by miko2d

 What about distress and mental anguish of the black students? It counts for nothing? Only college property loss?

 

  Distress and mental anguish as a reason to put someone in jail.  Thats rich.

  So your saying that if I hurt your wittle feewings I should go to jail?  

  Ok miko fess up... are you a lawyer or practicing to be a politician?

[Mighty1]

Did they threaten anyone? Did they hurt them?(feelings don't count)

NO!

Punish them for the crime they commit and move on!

[fd ski]

Originally posted by Tumor
Distress and mental anguish as a reason to put someone in jail.  Thats rich.
So your saying that if I hurt your wittle feewings I should go to jail?  

Supreme Court just decided a case for state for Virginia in which cross burning is not considered "harmless first ammendment expression" rather intimidation.
Falls in the same category.

miko, i agree with you. As for punishment, community service in black neighbourhood would do nicely.

[funkedup]

Did they confess?  If not, it's likely there is insufficient evidence to prosecute them.

[mietla]

Originally posted by miko2d
GtoRA2: Make them pay for the damages and file charges for vandalism. That should be enough.

 What about distress and mental anguish of the black students? It counts for nothing? Only college property loss?

 Basically, you would say that the perpetrators caused $600 damage by painting an innocent grafitti somewhere out of sight on the college property would be as guilty as those guys that drew scary words/pictures on the people's doors?

 miko

I'm with GtoRA2 on this one, and I suspect that Miko (at least Miko I know from his previous posts) is too. He's simply trolling.

Payments for anguish?? Absurd. PC gone bonkers.

Content is irrelevant. It's vandalism

[mietla]

Originally posted by GtoRA2
The content of the grafiti should not matter unless it says

"hey we are going to kill you" ETC.

Right.

[fd ski]

moral relativism at its best.

If it was couple arabs who painted "F****g J**s" etc, all of you would be yelling to point it out as a proof of how horrible arabs really are.

Wake up and smell the coffee.

White bigot doesn't make all whites bigots.
Black bigot doesn't make all blacks bigots.
Arab bigot doesn't make all arabs bigots.
And if this is news to you, get your head checked.