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Offline Gloves

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« on: December 19, 2002, 07:39:08 PM »
Hey guys,

A couple of guys were arguing that the 163 is set to randomly blow up 20% of the time.  No overloading the wings, just all of the sudden boom.  One said it was, the other said it wasn't.  I'm curious who is right.

Thanks,
Glove

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #1 on: December 19, 2002, 07:42:04 PM »
I dont believe HT would use random anything.

Offline I blew one up overstressing the gear. It wasnt moving that fast either so it doesnt take much.

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Re: Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #2 on: December 19, 2002, 10:07:01 PM »
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Originally posted by Gloves
Hey guys,

A couple of guys were arguing that the 163 is set to randomly blow up 20% of the time.  No overloading the wings, just all of the sudden boom.  One said it was, the other said it wasn't.  I'm curious who is right.

Thanks,
Glove


From what I've heard about the 163... that would be fairly accurate flight modeling!  Good job HTC!! :D
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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2002, 10:33:21 PM »
There are no random explosions on the 163.  That would be a reliability issue, which are left out on all planes.

You can break the 12g pilot limit, but it takes an actual effort to do it now that the elevator bug is fixed.

There are no random explosions, only an airplane that is easy to screw up in.

Offline Gloves

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2002, 09:31:05 AM »
bump

Offline brendo

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2002, 03:23:28 PM »
I have a few hours in the 163 now and have never exploded.

The 163 never randomly exploded. Tumor, there is an indepth article/interview with a main test pilot of the 163 and he says it never happened. (available on the internet somewhere)

A lot of pilots crashed 163s and survived.

Offline Gloves

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2002, 01:20:59 PM »
Still curious about this one.  I haven't had it happen randomly, but I have lost 2 to stupid mistakes - ie enabling autopilot while in a dive.  Exceeded 12g pilot limit both times & boom.  But this was pilot error.  I'm asking about just plain BOOM for no apparent reason.

Thanks,
Glove

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2002, 01:44:11 PM »
Its happened to me.

Flying along, level in a slow banking turn.
I wasn't stressing the airframe at all and was, in fact, powered down in an attempt to lenghthen my duration when all of a sudden: "you have crashed" message popped up and I was in the tower.

I believe this is a feature that is coded in.  If not then its a bug of some sort.  I posted on this elsewhere but haven't heard anything definitive from the HTC staff.  Until I get an answer I don't feel comfortable flying the Me163.

So I concur, this is an issue that is worthy of further exploration.

David

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2002, 01:51:15 PM »
Before the patch I experienced a 163 explosion immediately after running out of fuel. It seemed everyone in the H2H at that time were exploding with empty tank.

P.S. The ALT-X (speed) still puts 163 in a steep dive so watch it. I don't know what speed is the default for this one but it's definitely not ideal for climb.
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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2002, 02:38:59 PM »
[SIZE=8]IT'S A CONSPIRACY !!!!! [/SIZE]

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2002, 03:02:11 PM »
Yesterday I did a split S with the rocket .. the plane was stressing really bad  and my speed was near 750+ .. nothing broke... then I was flying straight and pulled up slightly to kill off speed and I instabtly appeared in the tower. Must be the samething/bug  you are talking about.

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2002, 09:51:05 PM »
The whole thing is an incorrect rumor.  The first day of the 163 being out before the patch, the 163 had an elevator bug where you could get full elevator authority regardless of speed.  This meant that even small movements of the stick would create BIG movements in the plane, making the 12g limit breakable by even a quick stick spike when at high speed.

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2002, 11:27:29 PM »
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I have a few hours in the 163 now and have never exploded.

The 163 never randomly exploded. Tumor, there is an indepth article/interview with a main test pilot of the 163 and he says it never happened. (available on the internet somewhere)

A lot of pilots crashed 163s and survived.


Did when landing, and some didn't survive.  Thanks for the corrections though :rolleyes:
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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #13 on: December 24, 2002, 12:30:19 AM »
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A lot of pilots crashed 163s and survived.



Ermm, wasn't the idea to pretty much ditch the aircraft on the runway?

so did these guys just slide of the runway then?:D

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Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA?
« Reply #14 on: December 24, 2002, 12:36:37 AM »
Tumor- how can something possibly blow up when there is no fuel in it?

The rocket motor was run until there was no more gas in the tanks.
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