Author Topic: Hey HiTech, are 163's set to randomly blow up in the MA? (Read 1722 times)

straffo · « **Reply #30 on:** January 07, 2003, 06:41:14 AM »

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Originally posted by Innominate
I'm still waiting for an official response saying wether or not the sky in the MA is green. WELL HT?

Sorry but there is no reason to waste thier time over this.

hahem ....

if the sky is green it's likely because you are flying inverted avoid pulling up in this case if you have insuficient alt reserve

Innominate · « **Reply #31 on:** January 07, 2003, 06:51:39 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
hahem ....

if the sky is green it's likely because you are flying inverted avoid pulling up in this case if you have insuficient alt reserve

But how can I be sure that I wasn't flying over water with a green sky!?
HT please comment!!!

straffo · « **Reply #32 on:** January 07, 2003, 06:54:14 AM »

doh ... I'm stuck

Gloves · « **Reply #33 on:** January 13, 2003, 01:25:56 PM »

Still curious.

Glove

hitech · « **Reply #34 on:** January 13, 2003, 02:01:17 PM »

They don't randomly blow up.

HiTech

gofaster · « **Reply #35 on:** January 13, 2003, 02:06:14 PM »

They should be. One example captured by the Allies was found to be booby trapped by the Nazi slave labor worker so that when the plane was launched, it would kill the pilot.

gofaster · « **Reply #36 on:** January 13, 2003, 02:08:30 PM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Tumor- how can something possibly blow up when there is no fuel in it?

The rocket motor was run until there was no more gas in the tanks.
-SW

Fumes.

Its not the liquid that burns, its the fumes the liquid gives off.

Gloves · « **Reply #37 on:** January 13, 2003, 02:11:53 PM »

THANKS HT!!!

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #38 on:** January 13, 2003, 03:07:02 PM »

Yes, and the rocket motor was run until the fuel was gone... so there wouldn't be fumes in the tanks.
-SW

Shiva · « **Reply #39 on:** January 14, 2003, 08:32:45 AM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Yes, and the rocket motor was run until the fuel was gone... so there wouldn't be fumes in the tanks.

So the fuel tanks were pulled down to a hard vacuum by the fuel pumps? Fuel pumps that were designed to pump liquid were somehow able to pump out all the vapors after the liquid was pumped out? No? Then there were fumes.

maxtor · « **Reply #40 on:** January 14, 2003, 08:35:39 AM »

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Originally posted by AKS\/\/ulfe
Yes, and the rocket motor was run until the fuel was gone... so there wouldn't be fumes in the tanks.
-SW

Try to weld an empty automobile fuel tank, if you survive let us know what you discovered

GrimCO · « **Reply #41 on:** January 14, 2003, 03:18:10 PM »

LOL I used to weld gasoline tanks... This was done with the tanks completely full of fuel... Perfectly safe... However, if you try welding when it's empty..... BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMM

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #42 on:** January 14, 2003, 04:41:12 PM »

First of all, I don't believe Hydrogen Peroxide (T-stoff) is flammable but it becomes unstable with trace impurities... so it becoming volitable would require poor manufacturing.

C-Stoff is flammable... but how are the relatively stable fumes going to ignite without a spark?

Exactly...
-SW

SpinDoc1 · « **Reply #43 on:** January 14, 2003, 05:00:08 PM »

From Aircraft of World War II "A Visual Encyclopedia" by Sharpe, Scutts, and March:

"The Walter R-II-203 rocket motor used a mixture of T-Stoff (hydrogen peroxide and water) and C-Stoff (hydrazine hydrate, methyl alcohol and water) to produce enormous thrust."

"The main problems with the Me 163, apart from a demanding pilot training programme, included engine reliability and fuel volatility that made it highly dangerous to handle... With his fuel expended, the Me 163 pilot had to glide back to base for a potentially dangerous landing, for the fumes accumulated in its fuselage tanks could detonate with the slighest jolt - indeed Me 163s were known to explode for no apparent reason."

I've also heard the phrase, "the Me163 killed more Axis pilots than it did Allied" although I don't have a source for it, just thought it was interesting.

This is just some information I could dig up.

AKS\/\/ulfe · « **Reply #44 on:** January 14, 2003, 05:15:41 PM »

According to Rudy Opitz: 1. Rocket engines would explode without warning.

Rudy Opitz: engines were reliable and relatively safe and were adjusted so as to shut down in the event of an imbalance in fuel flow. If there was a problem in engine performance, it related to shutdowns, not explosions. The only instances of engines blowing were in early testing of prototypes or when they had been damaged in battle or by accident.

2. Leaking fuel could turn pilots to jelly, particularly if the plane flipped over.

RO: pilots, me included, survived overturned Komets, and an overturned ship would not necessarily leak fuel into the cockpit. When fuel contacted organic material, including skin, it ignited after only a few seconds. Our protective nylon suits would not ignite but were porous, and fuel could sop through to the skin.

Landing accidents tended to be from the pilot coming in too fast, or too hard, damaging the plane... but this would happen to any plane if it came in too fast or touched down too hard (unless it was a carrier launched plane).

Random explosions due to fuel being bumped around is a myth.. it would require the two fuels to mix to react.
-SW