Bush to give Social Security to Mexicans

[Ripsnort]

Those that have paid into the system, and earned it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9342-2002Dec18.html

The pact would be the latest, but by far the largest, of a series of treaties designed to ensure that people from one country working in another aren't taxed by both nations' social security systems. In its first year, the agreement is projected to trigger 37,000 new claims from Mexicans who worked in the United States legally and paid Social Security taxes but have been unable to claim their checks, according to a memo prepared by Ted Girdner, the Social Security Administration's assistant associate commissioner for international operations.

WTG!

[miko2d]

If they paid the contribution, they should be entitled to the benefits.

 miko

[lord dolf vader]

how does this work they get here work 10 years and get our social security as a mexican citizen ? hell why dont we give the lot of them citizen ship ? they have national medicine maby they will share?

[whgates3]

maybe Jr. is just trying to fu>

[OIO]

not that vader. If a sum from their paycheck went to social security, then they are entitled to it. To not do so, or to not RETURN that money to those people would be theft.


Read the article too. Its not for LEGAL IMMIGRANTS, its for people who LEGALLY work in the US but live in Mexico, aka, they cross the border to work in the US every day.

Also, im willing to bet most of those people could get RESIDENCE easier than the average mexican because they have these special work visas.

[lord dolf vader]

so anyone who works in our country for (unspecified period of time) gets social security benifits that i and other americans have to do a military tour or 10 years of work to get ? you as an american if you are short on paying in you get nothing  they dont call that theft,  shurly mexican citizens arent a exception.

can i pay into mexican social security (unspecified period of time)and collect the benifits for me and my family  for the rest of my life?  

wondering if this isnt some bankrupt social security early tactic bush it up to.

[OIO]

Yes they get the benefits because they PAID for it from the money deducted from their checks.

Put yourself in the government's shoes... refund uncounted millions of dollars within 1 year because of this "slip up"  or give them the benefits?

Methinks giving them benefits is cheaper.

Oh, and btw, im pretty sure they wont give S.S. benefits to someone who worked only for a year, they can refund that money easy. Its those that have been working 20+ years, which are literally thousands of people, that would receive those benefits.

[Swager]

This way he can draft them, and their children, for his war against terrorism and Iraq.

[SOB]

Who cares about the Mexicans...I'm still left wondering what happened to the money my father put into the Social Security system for 35+ years.  He died at 54, and we didn't even qualify for the tiny amount you can sometimes recieve for funeral expenses.

Social Security sucks, it sucked before this issue and it sucks now.


SOB
"tha hijacker!"

[Eagler]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Those that have paid into the system, and earned it.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A9342-2002Dec18.html



WTG!

this is good why?

don't you think there is enough corruption and theft of the system already? Now we are suppose to be sending SS payments to mexicans living in MEXICO?

lets just drill more holes in the ole SS cup

But a Social Security administration memo obtained by the Washington Post reveals that the agreement "is expected to move forward at an accelerated pace," with the backing of both governments, and could be in effect as early as next October.

According to the Post, the agreement could create 37,000 new claims from Mexicans who had worked in the United States legally and paid Social Security taxes but have been unable to claim their checks, according to a memo by Ted Girdner, the Social Security Administration's assistant associate commissioner for international operations.

In addition to the flurry of new claims, another 13,000 Mexicans entitled to benefits but cut off by provisions of a 1996 immigration reform law could also begin receiving their checks.

In the 1996 law, Congress decreed that foreigners not legally residing in the United States could no longer claim benefits, unless their home countries were subject to a treaty. Those beneficiaries alone were owed nearly $50 million in 1998, according to a Mexican government document.

U.S. and Mexican government statistics indicate that the agreement could cost the U.S. $720 million a year within five years of its going into effect, the Post reported adding that one independent estimate put the total at $1 billion a year -- a large sum, but hardly comparable to the $372 billion in Social Security benefits being paid to 46.4 million recipients.

$372 billion/46.4 million & growing & growing ....................