If I go straight and level, dont shoot! :)

[akak]

Originally posted by Dago


AckAck, when I run jcenter, I get numbers averaging in the mid 400s.  CH Tech weenie tells me that is way too high.  You tell me if that is bad, I dont know.

dago

He is right about that.  The optimal speed for a game port should be in the 115ms-130ms range.  You can have it as slow as 250ms and as fast as 100ms but any slower than 250ms and you might experience spiking and lack of range movement.  At 400ms you'll more likely than not experience some jitter and possibly loss of calibration or in extreme cases not being able to calibrate or having the controls not be recognized in Windows.


Ack-Ack

[qts]

Would a really expensive controller make much difference?

No, but having a controller where you can use both hands simultaneously - a stick and a throttle - will make a huge difference. Go get yourself a Saitek X45 if you can't afford a Cougar.

And yes, you will suck even more to start with.

[Dago]

At 400ms you'll more likely than not experience some jitter and possibly loss of calibration or in extreme

So, whats the fix?  New stuff? Differant input?
I am using MB gameport.

dago

[BNM]

Originally posted by Innominate
No.  A new stick may be more comfortable, or offer more features, but really when it comeas down to it, it's not all that important, provided you have a working stick with a working POV Hat, throttle, and rudder control.

Hehehe... He's lying to ya gofastrlt. He just wants you to remain a big easy target.

[fuzeman]

Originally posted by Dago
So, whats the fix?  New stuff? Differant input?
I am using MB gameport.

dago

I may be wrong, and AKAK can correct me if I am, but its the speed of the gameport you need to improve.
I guess that would mean a faster gameport. To achieve that may mean new hardware but again I'm not positive.

Just a two cent question from me, would overclocking the FSB speed up the gameport or would the speed increase you get by doing that be relative and not improve the specific gameport speed?

fuzeman

[akak]

Originally posted by Dago
So, whats the fix?  New stuff? Differant input?
I am using MB gameport.

dago

1) Dedicated analog game port like CH Gamecard 3 Automatic or a Thrustmaster ACM game card.

2) Game port to USB adaptor

3) USB controllers.


ack-ack

[akak]

Originally posted by fuze
I may be wrong, and AKAK can correct me if I am, but its the speed of the gameport you need to improve.
I guess that would mean a faster gameport. To achieve that may mean new hardware but again I'm not positive.

Just a two cent question from me, would overclocking the FSB speed up the gameport or would the speed increase you get by doing that be relative and not improve the specific gameport speed?

fuzeman

To speed up your game port, you'd have to replace it with a dedicated game card that has adjustable speed.  

Over-clocking the FSB would be more relative than specific in speeding up the game port.


ack-ack

[fuzeman]

A follow up from me AKAK, concerning the Gamecard3.
I bought one a ways back, maybe 3 years, when I first started flying and tried to use it in my newest system, about 1.5 years old, and it very rarely recognized the controllers in windows. Was I doing something wrong or do you need to upgrade those every so often to accomodate the faster FSBs? I did try adjusting the speed of it but nothing seemed to work well and get it to recognize them consistantly.
Would you need system specs to answer? If so I can provide them. It was a Abit KT7A mobo using AMD processors.

I just checked my J-center and my readings are in the high 400 to low 500 range when centered. However, they seem to work OK in flight and I guess that's the main thing.

Sidenote- Do you remember 'High Flight' a kind of offshoot from CH, I assume,  that sold CH hardware? I did buy my FX thru them.
I asked a recent person at CH about them and they didn't have a clue about them.

Thanks for you valuble input on our output < S >
fuzeman

[akak]

Originally posted by fuze
A follow up from me AKAK, concerning the Gamecard3.
I bought one a ways back, maybe 3 years, when I first started flying and tried to use it in my newest system, about 1.5 years old, and it very rarely recognized the controllers in windows. Was I doing something wrong or do you need to upgrade those every so often to accomodate the faster FSBs? I did try adjusting the speed of it but nothing seemed to work well and get it to recognize them consistantly.
Would you need system specs to answer? If so I can provide them. It was a Abit KT7A mobo using AMD processors.

I just checked my J-center and my readings are in the high 400 to low 500 range when centered. However, they seem to work OK in flight and I guess that's the main thing.

Sidenote- Do you remember 'High Flight' a kind of offshoot from CH, I assume,  that sold CH hardware? I did buy my FX thru them.
I asked a recent person at CH about them and they didn't have a clue about them.

Thanks for you valuble input on our output < S >
fuzeman

I finally had to retire my GC3A when I upgraded to a higher end system.  The system was just too fast for the game card and I couldn't get the game card speed down to optimum levels.  Swapped out the game card for a Rockfire analog to USB adaptor.

As for 'High Flight' it was a small mail-order company that was part of 'Joystick Industries' the parent company of CH.  Last I heard it was shut down as part of CH's cost cutting measures a few years ago.





ack-ack

[fuzeman]

Thanks for the input. As I said, it seems to work ok so I'll go by the ol 'if it isn't broke, don't fix it' theory of operation.
Was just asking about High Flight, their websight did go 'poof' awhile back. Just glad they didn't sell repaired or remanufactured goods as new.

I'm working on my 38 flying. I may 'challenge' you to some DA fights and make an appearance on AKAK's 'Wall of Shame' film library

fuzeman