Thanks Spro. Thread got locked before I could add a response to Pyro. At any given rate, I feel what i said was the truth, just need to clarify one thing about the Aw comment. I have no beef with those that came over before the influx we saw when AW went belly up, as Brady said I would pay 30 again to see half the numebrs we see now. Why send an email to HT when the only response you will get is a silent mailbox waiting for that email that will never show. We have given him proof about many things and still nothing is done about it. Why? I have no idea and I am not going to specualte as to the decisions. I do know this, the contest was a bad choice, the modeling is to be nice outdated. Why am I still here? Waiting for another product to come along that can replace it. Its been fun but the ride just isn't same anymore.