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SwampRat

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How many just left EA(AW) for AH?
« on: March 25, 2001, 07:44:00 PM »
...just wondering.  Would be real interesting to see.

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« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2001, 08:23:00 PM »
Actually i'm still playing AW3 on Sat night to help old squad on SN's for those members who can't move to AH just yet. But i'm pushing hard on recruiting for here  

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« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2001, 11:37:00 PM »
I left when they were screwing around with the damage model. I believe that was pre-EA.

Huh, to think we were paying 40 bucks a month for 40 hours for AWII at one point, ah the silliness  

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« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2001, 11:57:00 PM »
 
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Huh, to think we were paying 40 bucks a month for 40 hours for AWII at one point, ah the silliness

Oy. That brings back bad credit card bill memories. I remember pre-flat rate...

I have a feeling AW will be swarmed with "relaxed realism" dweebs once AW goes on the EA main page... Not unlike the early AOL days of AW... Ah well, I'll keep my fingers crossed that the hard-core AW junkies make the move to here.

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« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2001, 12:23:00 AM »
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  I remember that damage model garbage!  I didn't bail till last fall after a few months of constant dumps to desktop after 10min of flight.  Got old but I stuck to AW until I finally ran out of patience.  Too bad about AWIV, was really looking forward to it.
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« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2001, 06:45:00 AM »
Canceled my Gamestorm/EA account this weekend. I honestly hadn't used it much over the past 3 years, but I had held an continuous account in AW since the early days of AW4W on AOL.

But the crap EA is pulling was the last straw.

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« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2001, 10:08:00 AM »
What's Airwarrior?

=o/

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« Reply #7 on: March 26, 2001, 10:18:00 PM »
 
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...just wondering.  Would be real interesting to see.

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Well, I have not made the switch....yet... and I had to think about saying yet. I may do so but I have to first convince myself that 30 bucks a month is not too expensive. I am the CO of The Misfits squadron in AW and mentioned to another squad member last night that I had been having thoughts about trying out AH. To this he answered "If you spend thirty dollars a month so will I. I go where you lead." I have a feeling that is what will happen with several of the members of the squad. That is the way of *most* of the players in AW as I`m sure some of you already know. The game isn`t the keeper of the player. The friendships achieved and maintained is what keeps all of us going back for more in AW.

  Do not count us out. One day soon you may indeed be shot down by a Misfit and wonder to yourself just who the hell these guys are creating all this mayhem all of a sudden. <G>


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« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2001, 11:16:00 PM »
Well... New players are ALWAYS welcome Otto. Remember, the vocal few registered on the BBS(me for example) do NOT represent anyone else in AH. We are just obnoxious and do not bear the thoughts of others.

AH is a lot of fun, just ignore the banter and it'll be the most fun 30$ will getcha!!!
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« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2001, 11:22:00 PM »
Otto try it aleast for 1 month if you choose not to stay then quit anytime Htc will refund unused balance. I'm sure you will enjoy it and that seems to me to be worth 30 bucks but that is for you to decide.
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« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2001, 01:07:00 AM »
I am here, now.

Warms the cockles of my heart to see Dok Gonzo of the 4Q each time he gets a kill scroll by -grin- (wonders which A26 is him.. owes him some from long ago :)

Slowly gettin my trackin skills adapted.
Neat how so much learned in AW FR crosses over. Also neat how so much that was demanded for so long in AW is in AH ..I should have come over long ago.
Glad to have finally shrugged the chains off.

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« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2001, 02:06:00 AM »
Just a clarification on the heading of this thread. The people in AW didnt leave EA and AW. EA and AW left us. Hung us out to dry actually.

Hope to see you all in the AH MA soon.


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« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2001, 03:04:00 AM »
The real answer is more and more each day; and I'm still not sure what I feel about it.

On the one hand, this is a great game, and I'm very happy to be playing it.

On the other, AW was once also a great game, and it almost hurts to see how it's suffered under the neglect of the last few years.

Nonetheless, make no mistake, there are some good, some very good AW sticks, even in Relaxed Realism.

Any flight sim worth the name stresses three things: 3D geometry, energy management and flying on the knife edge. Those skills are transferable, it'll just take some adjustment.

For me, as a former AW'er, the two hardest things to get used to are the nose/head wobble (which I've managed to largely tune out of my stick scaling); and compression. I've augered here more times in three weeks than I did in 3 years in AW. What's it like for an ex WB'er?

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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2001, 06:54:00 AM »
Well.. I think I have a fairly unique perspective.  My background is actually from both AW and WB's. For a very long time I flew both. I started in AW, switched to WB's, but couldn't afford to feed my addiction at $2/hr, so when I hit my budget limit each month, I went back to AW. Plus I was involved alot in the AW Scenarios.  

So when I came into AH when the beta started, I would mostly have considered myself a WB's guy, with alot of friends still in AW. So I had/have a pretty good feel for both (all three?) FM's.

To me the hardest things that AW guys would have problems adjusting too are Trim, Energy management and gunnery. In that order.

Trim isn't as much of an issue as it once was, after combat trim (CT) was introduced. Not because it takes the skill out of trimming an aircraft. Far from it, because given equal skill, someone who is manually trimming will usually perform better than someone who is using CT. But at the low end of the skill curve, the new pilots, are not so far out of the trim "Curves" that they are wallowing all over the sky. And at least have some "minimal" level of being able to manuever.

Energy Management. True we don't have the super delicate E management of the pre 1.03 FM here in AH anymore, but compared to AW where you could loop a P38 at 20k continuously and actually gain altitude by playing the flaps like a piano, its a world of difference. And yes I am talking AW in Full Realism. Basically IMO you have to "think" more in AH (or WB's for that matter) before you enter a fight, than in AW. Its not so much a matter of just being a good stick and rudder man, as also playing an aerial game of "chess". You have to think ahead, and pick and choose your fights alot more.

Gunnery. To me when I made the transition to WB's (and I think it would be similar for guys going today from AW to AH, due to the similarities of AH and WBs) gunnery was a real squeak. No matter if AW was using either hit bubbles or hit shells, I always found the gunnery there to be a simple matter compared to AH/WB's. No wonder alot of new pilots here fly Chogs and Niki's. Lots of ammo, to spray and pray with, and if you hit something it stays dead. I honestly think that if new people had to fly something like a single cannon 109 or a Yak when they started, each and every one of them would leave immediately and never come back.

I've babbled enough.

But in the end, the transition from AW over to AH is alot like the transition in AW from RR to FR. Its hard at first, and takes some time to learn the differences. But if your a good stick in one, you will learn to be a good stick in the other. Its just a matter of what your use too.




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« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2001, 02:03:00 PM »
 
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I am here, now.


Slowly gettin my trackin skills adapted.
Neat how so much learned in AW FR crosses over.


One thing that doesn't crossover too well...it is much harder to do a double Immel here.
Good to see ya here GE, maybe I'll get to take a pot shot at you in the MA instead of in the BW NG  



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