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Offline Zippatuh

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« Reply #45 on: January 04, 2002, 01:14:00 PM »
He’s right!  Those g’damn stupid, LA7, Spit, N1K, dweebs ruin it for everyone!

Oooops, wait.  I have just been flying like crap the last few days.  It can’t be my problem though.  Has to be the damn FM  ;).

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« Reply #46 on: January 04, 2002, 01:52:00 PM »
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Oooops, wait. I have just been flying like crap the last few days. It can’t be my problem though. Has to be the damn FM  

Sorry and glad to hear this at the same time. I have had a lousy few days too, and misery loves company...  ;)

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« Reply #47 on: January 04, 2002, 03:59:00 PM »
I was thinking about the comment regarding fighting ICONS and not the plane.....and realized that in the last 6 years the ICON system has actually regressed.

Originally, in AirWarrior, ICONS were not in the "flight window", but off the screen to the side with a position indicator on the top of the screen showing you the rough location of the plane the ICON was identifying.  So while you got identification and range data, you did NOT get an automatic position finder from them.  It was still possible to "lose" a plane against the terrain, and in a massive furball it became difficult to keep track of your target.  

Then WB's came along with its full-screen play window and ICON tags attached directly to aircraft, and AW soon followed by adding this as an option (later the default setting).  

AH has attempted to re-create some of that "lose the plane" by features such as greying out the ICON against clouds and removing it in certain circumstances.  

I think it is possible to have this same sort of setup without regressing to AW's much-hated "periscope mode".  If you cut off a small space (3-4 lines worth of text space) at the bottom of the screen as space for ICONS with a tiny space (1 line) at the top for the tagging, you could put the ICONS offscreen instead of attaching them to the NME plane and even have another positive result--the view window would become wider than it is tall, as human eyes are.  Indeed, if you combine this idea with AH's system of removing/greying out ICONS based on visability, there is potential for the best ICON setup ever.

I don't see this happening in the near future (obviously it would require a considerable amount of work), but perhaps is something to look at in the future.

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« Reply #48 on: January 04, 2002, 04:39:00 PM »
Grun lately I've been watching Spit V's and Seafires keep with me in powered tiffie dives, ie 480kias plus. As in we dive, speed maxes out, the spit holds the same range, then we go level at 480kias, then the spit slowly starts to get left behind as a bleeds speed faster.

There may be a bug in the Spit V model, I've certainly noticed their amazing ability to dive. It may be a case of good trimming, but IMHO a Spit V would probably rip itself apart at 500kias  :)

Zygote, take a break dude, sounds like typical AH burnout. We all get hit with it from time to time.

 
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Now to Pzygomia:    :)

Spits are very slow and cant dive worth a toejam, just about any plane easily outdives a Spit, especially all 109Gs and all all 190s from my experience. Keep above thenm or coalt and they arent a bother too much then. If they are much higher than you simply refuse to fight. Thats one of the greatest things about the AH "Arena" setup, you dont have to fight if you dont want to, even against much faster planes if you know what you are doing.

You can also outurn and outmanuver Spits, Nikis and even Zeros in 190s and 109s if you know what youre doing.

When fighting turn fighers in 109 and 190 keep the option (some alt) to dive away.


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« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2002, 04:41:00 PM »
It sounds to me like there may be a good reason for HTC to look into Spit dive acceleration.
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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2002, 06:01:00 PM »
Heh.. SOME planes in Ah perform like they supposed to, unfortunately P38 doesn't.  38 should be turning a lot better than AH p38. Also p38 has a horseshit stall, that dips plane into the bank of the corner... flips upside down.. and in the drink ya go... that my friends is a load of watermelon =).  SO really what i am trying to say is If some planes are soooo good like they were in RL, lets make the rest of em like they should have been. (p38)  This post is filled with greed to get p38 fixed. Sorry if i totally trashed the subject =)

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« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2002, 06:05:00 PM »
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It sounds to me like there may be a good reason for HTC to look into Spit dive acceleration.

To be honest with you, I've never seen a Spit keep up with me in a dive in anything.  I have seen them keep up with me in a climb for a bit though, that tends to make me nervous  :).

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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2002, 06:09:00 PM »
Karnak why do you think the Spitfire might have a dive speed issue in AH?

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« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2002, 06:22:00 PM »
I don't have a problem with the Spits dive speed, but what always amazes me is how long they keep that speed after they level out.

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« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2002, 06:44:00 PM »
told ya he was a nut job... I am flattered that he mentioned me in his latest "I quit forever" rant tho.
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« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2002, 08:08:00 PM »
--- vulcan: ---
but IMHO a Spit V would probably rip itself apart at 500kias
--- end ---

Spitfire has the highest recorded dive speed for prop planes or some such? I remember finn or some other Spitweenie making a remark about it a long time ago.


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« Reply #56 on: January 04, 2002, 08:10:00 PM »
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Pongo,

I don't even know why I bother.

I am sick of seeing the type of crap that people like Zygote put out.  You seem to like others to do your dirty work, and then come in a look reasonable while you defend them.  I was wrong about his particular habits, but that doesn't change my opinion of his statements.

It should also tell you something about the most rabid of German aircraft fans that his statements are so readily attributed to that group.

I would understand your take on me better if I always argued against things for German aircraft, but that is not the case.  There are many times that I have argued for improvements to the German aircraft in AH as well as additional German aircraft to be added.

Due to things said by others I sometimes regret those statements...

You must be right. I am afraid to get my hands dirty I guess.
When you attribute this guys charecteristics to everyone that likes german AC you are being an ass.
When he is not even a flyer of german AC you are being a bloody ass.
When you dont even see that you are doing it and have been for years you are being a stupid bloody ass.
Do you see my agenda now?
To point out that your love of labeling people you dissagree with luftwhiners no matter thier taste in AC makes you a stupid bloody ass...

I dont care that you argue for or against German AC. But it feels like nails on a chalk board to me that you always have to turn to labeling people. Because that is not an insult to this guy(who doenst even fit your profile) but to everyone that likes German AC in the game.....

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« Reply #57 on: January 04, 2002, 08:16:00 PM »
Pongo is right here, a huge segment of the BBS crowd, including you Karnak, is all too quick to label people "luftwhiners" for any complaint they pose on the board.

Just imagine your screams and whines, Karnak, if it wasnt an RAF Tiffie pilot Vulcan who posted his concerns about the Spit dive thing. And now you guys go calling people luftwhiners who dont even fly German planes.


Dont attempt any smart comeback to this your guys behavior is out of line here, please stop.

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« Reply #58 on: January 04, 2002, 11:59:00 PM »
Didnt you say he flies Spits a lot?  If that is the case, why all the luftwhining about the flight model?  I dont get it.

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« Reply #59 on: January 18, 2002, 01:44:40 AM »
welp......


i do not think that  is a flaw in the sim, it  how and what you choose to attack.

so  do not whine to me about  getting HO's.. run down by an LA or out turned by a Nik.


try this and, i think that many including myself  forget this.  FLY SMART!

i totally suck at this sim but it is not about how many dweebs  ya send  home.  it is about #1 having fun  #2 knowing when to fight and  when  to get the hell out of dodge.

#3 if you expect  to roll around in a furball and  get out without a scratch then  you are smoking some good chit!


if you are all about points or kills then  you are a gamer.  you arent  a flight simmer. real combat flight simmers
that i know do not pork or get kills or even vultch .  not for the points anyhow they have a much  better thing that motivates them ....  HATE! what has happened to the hate?

damn it i want hate !!!

awww toejam ill have to   learn ya about the hate too....



maybe some other time glasshoppa

this whole thing is about skill. if you get you bellybutton popped head on  it is because you  didnt have the skills to get  out of said  HO dweebs way.  ( lead turn! or just out fly the banana)<---refers to  the point that you have the general knowlage of basic ACM?

as for icons.  maybe ya have a squeak about that. maybe ya dont.  myself i would like the icon to pop up if you get within   firing range that would make it alot more interesting.
if  you have multi nme's around.  800 and down would be  keep the  furballing   interesting.


 that would make  folks think!
if they see an bellybutton load of  bogies all around. maybe i would keep friendly they are?
 this would make wingman tactis and  group missions much more favorable? ( i think so )

if this is a troll  please disregard . you got me.